Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 10th Jun 2010 00:08 UTC
Microsoft It's late here, but we're having election night, and the two leading parties are currently tied seat-wise, with a 10000-vote difference. Anyway, it gives me some time to cover a major problem: Microsoft is at it again. The company has pushed an update through Windows Update which silently, without user consent, installs two browser extensions - one for Internet Explorer, and one for Firefox.
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A lot of software does this
by harcalion on Thu 10th Jun 2010 09:43 UTC
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I easily recall how installing Flash for Opera on Windows, installs it for Firefox, K-Meleon and a host of other browsers without my consent.

Also, Adobe updates will update all the plugins of all the browsers. I recall no hell gate opening because of this, except for Adobe's bugs.

Finally, maybe the curious reader of Windows Live Toolbar EULA can see that this crossbrowser update is present in that Agreement.

Bottom line: Don't install toolbars if you don't want extra software (wherever it may appear).

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RE: A lot of software does this
by vodoomoth on Thu 10th Jun 2010 10:31 in reply to "A lot of software does this"
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Bottom line: Don't install toolbars if you don't want extra software (wherever it may appear).

That's one of the reason why I stayed with Opera since 2001, when, out of curiosity, I "tried" it. Yes people (thinking of Thom here) have said "it does too much" but that much is exactly what I want. One keystroke to access my email and feeds account, one keystroke for my bookmarks, one for searching Google, one for Wikipedia, and one for any online service that I would choose. All of this entirely configurable to my wishes. Tabs, adblocking, tab process separation, skins, speed dial, emails, everything is available. Quite surprisingly, pioneer Opera needed Firefox and many many user complaints to bring spell-checking into the browser.

Private company, closed source, there's bloat in Opera especially the 10.50 to 10.53 versions, there's still no way to delete only one item from the cache, the HTML emails are not perfect yet, etc. I'm even writing an article on why Opera might lose me as a user. But overall, the philosophy of no extensions (widgets have even been kicked out of the browser quite recently) resonates with me.

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I've said for a long time that Adobe's Flash plugin deliver is part of the problem. They also intentionally go outside the browser's plugin distribution method. Flash for Firefox should be in the Firefox plugin repository where it's easy for users to find and updates through the browser's standard method. Adding a seporate update hunt and download when a far cleaner method exists is just one of the reasons I'd drop Adobe in a second given the choice.

(Anyone know when they'll have the latest vulnerability patched and ready for download. It effects Flash, Acrobat and Reader after all.)

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