Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 10th Jun 2010 22:59 UTC
Multimedia, AV It's been a very long wait, but the release is finally here: Adobe has released Flash Player 10.1. Since Flash has come under increasing scrutiny, there's a lot at stake here for Adobe. This release is supposed to use far less resources while still being faster, more stable, and more secure. Update: No 64bit Flash player for now - on any platform. The Linux beta has been axed.
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RE[2]: Comment by zoinksbob
by tyrione on Fri 11th Jun 2010 05:15 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by zoinksbob"
tyrione
Member since:
2005-11-21

It's Apple/OS X which are pathetic. They recently added a framework which would make it possible to play H.264 videos through the GPU in flash on macs, but they only did it for the latest Nvidia chipsets and GPUs so no luck even if you have an older Intel, Nvidia eventually the latest ATI GPUs they used even if they got H.264 support in the chip.

Blame Apple for total lameness, as always. I to hated flash on my mac, now it's been resting on a shelf for 13 months, I should really be faster in mailing them but it's so f--king disturbing.

Try it in Windows on the same machine and I'm sure things will improve ..


Hardware acceleration for Flash on Linux is non-existent. I've got VDPAU for Mplayer using Nvidia for my H.264 very recently, so spare me the Jobs is late to the ball game crap.

I don't have video players spanning multiple cores running OpenMP on Linux and seeing my cores barely being touched.

I'm seeing a single core still running VLC with Red Cliff II at 10% utilization.

Yet, if I have this in Flash it'll throttle my CPU.

Sorry, but Flash is a pig.

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RE[3]: Comment by zoinksbob
by bitwelder on Fri 11th Jun 2010 06:19 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by zoinksbob"
bitwelder Member since:
2010-04-27


Hardware acceleration for Flash on Linux is non-existent. I've got VDPAU for Mplayer using Nvidia for my H.264 very recently, so spare me the Jobs is late to the ball game crap.


You're comparing a walled garden of apples to an open field of oranges.
Jobs is paid megabucks to provide above-average, bleeding-edge, psychedelic experience to his customers.

In the GNU/Linux development I don't see this kind of commitment (and you see it from industry attitude to Linux versions)

That said, yes Flash is still bloatware.

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RE[3]: Comment by zoinksbob
by molnarcs on Fri 11th Jun 2010 08:40 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by zoinksbob"
molnarcs Member since:
2005-09-10

I dunno, flash has been working very well on my linux laptop since the new betas. Below you can see me playing a 720p youtube video. My CPU utilization is 66%, but they are not throttled - running at 800Mhz only!They can go up to 2500Mhz (I'm using ondemand cpu governor).

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/9y6k-s1Bj0aDHwCFqJdg6A?feat=di...

Flash version:

Name : flashplugin
Version : 10.0.45.2-1
URL : http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer
Licenses : custom
Groups : None
Provides : flashplayer
Depends On : mozilla-common libxt gtk2 nss curl
Optional Deps : None
Required By : None
Conflicts With : None
Replaces : flashplugin-beta
Installed Size : 11735.00 K
Packager : Giovanni Scafora <giovanni@archlinux.org>
Architecture : x86_64
Build Date : Fri 12 Feb 2010 04:21:50 AM ICT
Install Date : Sun 11 Apr 2010 02:53:34 PM ICT
Install Reason : Explicitly installed
Install Script : No
Description : Adobe Flash Player

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RE[3]: Comment by zoinksbob
by _txf_ on Fri 11th Jun 2010 20:06 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by zoinksbob"
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

H264 acceleration on osx IS a joke. It only supports the quicktime implementation (therefore practically anything encoded with x264 fails). VDPAU has been out for a fairly long time now and pretty much accelerates anything under the sun xvid,vc-1, and h264.

I imagine that is why video is still crappy (on osx) compared to something like vdpau.

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