Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 9th Jun 2010 18:07 UTC
Google This was inevitable. AdMob founder and CEO Omar Hamoui has responded to Apple blocking AdMob from the iOS ecosystem. Unsurprisingly, Hamoui isn't particularly amused, claiming that not only is it bad for competition, it will also hurt developers and users alike.
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RE[5]: Let ads die. Period.
by Laurence on Fri 11th Jun 2010 11:37 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Let ads die. Period."
Laurence
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2007-03-26

Try a browser which doesn't identify itself as Safari in its user agent string and does not support webkit's proprietary tags. At least once, please.


AFAIK Chrome doesn't identify itself as Safari. It just identifies that it's webkit.

And as for webkit's tags, they're all open source and submitted to w3c - which, at the end of the day is preferable to waiting for the epically slow w3c to draft their own specs and massively more preferable to using Flash in the mean time.

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RE[6]: Let ads die. Period.
by Neolander on Fri 11th Jun 2010 12:14 in reply to "RE[5]: Let ads die. Period."
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2010-03-08

AFAIK Chrome doesn't identify itself as Safari. It just identifies that it's webkit.

The first link when searching "chrome user agent" on google does not agree with you :
http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-user-agent/

And as for webkit's tags, they're all open source and submitted to w3c - which, at the end of the day is preferable to waiting for the epically slow w3c to draft their own specs and massively more preferable to using Flash in the mean time.

So in the end you're just re-creating the Flash issue.

Because you can freely read about the Flash spec, the issue is that Adobe change it whenever they want, while screwing up everyone who does not use their implementation. There's the same issue for webkit tags : the spec is freely readable, but people from the webkit project may change it whenever they want...

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RE[7]: Let ads die. Period.
by Laurence on Fri 11th Jun 2010 12:28 in reply to "RE[6]: Let ads die. Period."
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

The first link when searching "chrome user agent" on google does not agree with you : http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-user-agent//


Ok, now lets look at more than one build of Chrome:
http://www.useragentstring.com/pages/Chrome/

As you can see every single version identifies itself as Chrome with a few also adding Safari in there.
This is little different to how many other browsers worked when they were new and/or held small market shares.

So in the end you're just re-creating the Flash issue. Because you can freely read about the Flash spec, the issue is that Adobe change it whenever they want, while screwing up everyone who does not use their implementation. There's the same issue for webkit tags : the spec is freely readable, but people from the webkit project may change it whenever they want, and hence...


Only if we're complacent. The technology does need to move forward and much as I dislike Apple on the whole, they're doing a good job with HTML5. Ignoring Apple's enhancements entirely is somewhat like cutting your nose of to spite your face. A better approach would be to adopt with caution.

It's also worth noting that Flash is an open spec, not open source. Where as webkit /IS/ open source thus can be forked at any time if people don't like Apple's direction.

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