Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 10th Jun 2010 22:59 UTC
Multimedia, AV It's been a very long wait, but the release is finally here: Adobe has released Flash Player 10.1. Since Flash has come under increasing scrutiny, there's a lot at stake here for Adobe. This release is supposed to use far less resources while still being faster, more stable, and more secure. Update: No 64bit Flash player for now - on any platform. The Linux beta has been axed.
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WereCatf
Member since:
2006-02-15

20%? For what types of operations? Performance gains on the desktop are negligible and in some cases 32 bit is faster:
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2280812,00.asp

64 bit performance really depends on the type of workload:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/sqlprogrammability/archive/2007/04/30/will-...

You know, that's a mislead benchmark there. There's really rarely a case where your computer is otherwise idle but only plays music; no, usually the user is also doing some other things at the same time as playing music. The more processes you are running simultaneously the bigger the benefit you'll see in running 64-bit.

Also, web browsers et al do move around a lot of data and as such the extra bandwidth really benefits them. And the heavier the application in question the more benefit it gains; audio and video editing and processing applications, 3D modeling and CAD applications, photo manipulation, hell, even gaming.

Usually a user doesn't have only 1 single application open playing a single track and as such it's safe to say that 64-bit OS and applications stack DOES indeed provide worthy benefits over 32-bit ones.

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nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26


And the heavier the application in question the more benefit it gains; audio and video editing and processing applications, 3D modeling and CAD applications, photo manipulation, hell, even gaming.


I never said that there are no benefits with 64 bit computing. As I already said it depends on the type of operation. It's a FACT that some operations are faster on 32 bit processors. 64 bit cpus can slow a process by adding overhead, namely 64 bit pointers that take up twice as much cpu cache. Benefits related to video are more in intensive encoding, not a junky plug-in that streams video.

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2007/11/is-it-time-for-64-bit-on-t...

I think a lot of the mythos behind 64 bit comes from game consoles where you had a significant difference in performance between 16/32/64 bit systems. For the typical consumer the difference between 32 and 64 bit is negligible. I'm all for the move towards 64 bit but there is an unsubstantiated demand for all software to immediately move to 64 bit. Having a few 32 bit programs is not a big deal.

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JPowers27 Member since:
2008-07-30

Misleading to the max. It's a 32bit Vista vs 64bit Vista....

Windows doesn't run in 64bit mode on x86 systems. Microsoft uses the 32/64bit mode; this means that the CPU is running in 32bit mode and only the address is done in 64bit. Thus, they don't get the extra registers; and the only speed up you're seeing is caused by having a larger address space.

This also explains why 32bit mode can be faster then 64bit mode. Since the everything except addresses are the same, the size of pointers are doubled meaning extra processing and storage space for them.

The only true 64bit version of Windows is the Itanium version. Microsoft didn't want to create a Win64 API for the x86 processors.

Linux, FreeBSD, & Mac OS X all run in true 64bit mode and can use the extended register set.

I don't know if Linux supports running 32bit & 64bit applications on the 64bit kernel.

Mac OS supports both 32bit on 64bit kernels and 64bit on 32bit kernels. For some reason, they just want programs to work.

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JrezIN Member since:
2005-06-29

(just trying to close a tag...)[/i]

Edited 2010-06-13 22:17 UTC

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