Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 11th Jun 2010 21:56 UTC
Windows Yes, the day is finally drawing closer: the day Windows XP died. October 22, 2010 will be the final and definitive day for the venerable operating system, since OEMs will no longer be able to pre-load it on netbooks after that day. I might not make myself popular around here with this, but thank god, it's about time that pile of junk is taken behind the shed.
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RE: XP64 == XP
by galvanash on Fri 11th Jun 2010 22:50 UTC in reply to "XP64 == XP"
galvanash
Member since:
2006-01-25

Yes, the future of Windows is 7. But there's no way you can categorically say that 7 is better than XP.


Windows 7 is better than XP. Categorically ;)

Windows 7 is not always suitable as a replacement for XP though, so it still has uses. If I had to pick between XP and Windows 7 to run on a PII 600 with 512MB of memory and an old Riva 128 video card - Id pick XP in a heartbeat (or a lightweight Linux distribution). But if the machine has a 2GB or more of memory and a halfway decent video card I cannot fathom any good reason to use XP - even given your arguments. The stability, features, and performance trump the few issues I have with the UI. Ill will agree with you that the control panel UI is pretty bad though...

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RE[2]: XP64 == XP
by darknexus on Fri 11th Jun 2010 23:07 in reply to "RE: XP64 == XP"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

OH, I don't know. I'm running it on one of my Atom machines here, 1.66 ghz and only 1 gb of memory, and 7 outperforms the xp that it came with. I'm not sure I'd run it on an old Pentium II, but the latest version of Windows I'd even consider running on such a machine is 2000. Any functionality beyond that, and I'll pick a lightweight Linux.

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RE[2]: XP64 == XP
by WorknMan on Fri 11th Jun 2010 23:15 in reply to "RE: XP64 == XP"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

Windows 7 is better than XP. Categorically ;)


I find Win7 only marginally better than XP. Whoever wrote this article obviously had no f**king clue what they were talking about. Slipstream the latest service pack into your XP installation disc, along with whatever features you want plus your cd key (using nLite), and you can install XP with a couple of key presses. (Is it even possible to slipstream service packs anymore with Vista/7?) And after you install XP, use autopatcher to install whatever updates you need, and you're done. And it's fast too. Win7 takes forever to install, and 10-15gb vs 1gb? Win7 isn't THAT much more advanced than XP to account for all that extra space, so WTF did they put in there?

Then, once you start up Win7, you notice that it's not all that different. They threw in an OSX-style glassy-ass transparent UI (probably to appeal to the iTards), which is the first thing that got turned off. The second thing to get turned off was the new task bar; I guarantee you whoever thought up that train wreck never had more than 10+ apps on his quick launch toolbar, much less 30 or 40. The third thing to get turned off was the 'aero snap' BS, which kept wanting to attach windows to the top/sides of the screen every time I moved it around. Then they went and renamed/moved sh*t around for no apparent reason, so now I have to relearn where everything is.

Esentially, once I had all of this useless crap turned off, I was basically back to something that looked and felt like XP. Well, the start menu is better, but that's hardly worth the price I paid. I'm not saying there's anything particularly wrong with it, just that it's not a huge leap over XP.

In all the years I ran XP, I could count the number of times on one hand that it crashed, that didn't have to do with faulty hardware. It wasn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but I think it stands up quite well to Win7, at least for those of us who knew what we were doing. This is especially true when you consider that XP is almost 10 years old. In all this time, Win7 is the best that MS could come up with? The file manager doesn't even support tabbed browsing, for Christ's sake. Notepad still sucks ass. Most of the built-in apps are gone. Etc, etc.

Unfortunately, old things pass away, and we can't stay stuck in the past forever, so we must move on.... either to a new version of Windows, or to some other OS. Either that, or just hope our hardware holds out for another 20 years.

Edited 2010-06-11 23:19 UTC

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RE[3]: XP64 == XP
by vodoomoth on Fri 11th Jun 2010 23:59 in reply to "RE[2]: XP64 == XP"
vodoomoth Member since:
2010-03-30

In all the years I ran XP, I could count the number of times on one hand that it crashed, that didn't have to do with faulty hardware. It wasn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but I think it stands up quite well to Win7, at least for those of us who knew what we were doing. This is especially true when you consider that XP is almost 10 years old. In all this time, Win7 is the best that MS could come up with? The file manager doesn't even support tabbed browsing, ...


I totally agree. Especially the "file manager doesn't even support tabbed browsing" part: I've written a few days ago in a comment that Microsoft should've done themselves a favor and bought FreeCommander, and ClipDiary. I also mentioned RocketDock but Steve J. would be pissed off.
No tabbed browsing in the explorer? That's a joke! No clipboard history? Joke too! What are those OS vendors thinking about? There is still room for making users experience better. I hope the guys behind Haiku, AROS and likes know better than that.

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RE[3]: XP64 == XP
by nt_jerkface on Sat 12th Jun 2010 04:44 in reply to "RE[2]: XP64 == XP"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26


I find Win7 only marginally better than XP. Whoever wrote this article obviously had no f**king clue what they were talking about.


Then you must never read about computer security.

Thanks for that wall of text though.

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RE[3]: XP64 == XP
by marcp on Sun 13th Jun 2010 09:54 in reply to "RE[2]: XP64 == XP"
marcp Member since:
2007-11-23

"Win7 isn't THAT much more advanced than XP to account for all that extra space, so WTF did they put in there? "

AFAIR: WinSxS, which is the shared library folder. [I'm not a Win user though. so it comes from my own research and Win7 testing]

"Esentially, once I had all of this useless crap turned off, I was basically back to something that looked and felt like XP. Well, the start menu is better, but that's hardly worth the price I paid"

I'm still amazed you oaid it. You know, there was Win7 RC for testing purposes ... ;)

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RE[2]: XP64 == XP
by WereCatf on Sat 12th Jun 2010 08:07 in reply to "RE: XP64 == XP"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

But if the machine has a 2GB or more of memory and a halfway decent video card I cannot fathom any good reason to use XP

I have an Athlon 64 2Ghz, 2GB RAM and GeForce 7600GT... and guess what? XP DOES indeed run better on it than 7! You people seem to think 7 is comparable to the second coming of Jesus, but it's not. It doesn't provide any significant features I can't get with XP already and it actually runs worse. Since I mostly use my PC for gaming having less resources available for the game does matter.

7 is good, I give that, but I still prefer XP over it.

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RE[3]: XP64 == XP
by another_sam on Sat 12th Jun 2010 10:43 in reply to "RE[2]: XP64 == XP"
another_sam Member since:
2009-08-19

I agree. 7 does not have any additional feature I want and uses double CPU, triple RAM and quadruple hard disk. lol.

If Company of Heroes doesn't work on Wine by the time I change my laptop I'll have rethink my gaming strategy or install 7 knowing that is a waste of energy.

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RE[3]: XP64 == XP
by REM2000 on Sat 12th Jun 2010 16:37 in reply to "RE[2]: XP64 == XP"
REM2000 Member since:
2006-07-25

If you are a gamer then and upgrade to Windows 7 simply for DirectX 10/11. More and more games are moving over.

I have a Quad Core Intel, 2GB RAM, nVidia 9800.

I used to run WindowsXP as this machine is mainly for games (I use a mac for my day to day stuff at home).

Windows 7 offers a lot more than XP. Better file transfers and file operations as 7 makes better use of memory for caching data. I notice a big difference when copying files to my server.

Better use of the cores and video cards provides a noticeably faster machine. However also usability wise windows 7 provides a more easier and faster system to interact with, aero peek i couldn't do without and it really makes a difference when using a computer daily both at home for games and at work for work related tasks.

I never was a fan of XP, i much preferred Windows 2000. However 7 does offer a lot and makes greater use of modern hardware.

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RE[2]: XP64 == XP
by judgen on Sat 12th Jun 2010 12:57 in reply to "RE: XP64 == XP"
judgen Member since:
2006-07-12

Some errors. the p2 only ran at stock speeds at 450mhz max and was overclockable to 504mhz but after that it got very problematic due to the slot1 slot beeing very less asynchronously adapted than a socket build. But no i would neither use win7 or xp on (if there ever existed a pentium two at 600mhz) such a machine. I would run BeOS on it =D

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RE[3]: XP64 == XP
by galvanash on Sat 12th Jun 2010 19:22 in reply to "RE[2]: XP64 == XP"
galvanash Member since:
2006-01-25

Typo. I meant Pentium III. I still have an old Katmai system that for whatever reason runs like a clock on XP.

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RE[2]: XP64 == XP
by Punktyras on Mon 14th Jun 2010 13:21 in reply to "RE: XP64 == XP"
Punktyras Member since:
2006-01-07

I suppose, this could help in configuring - create new folder on desktop and name it:

GodMode.{ED7BA470-8E54-465E-825C-99712043E01C}

Now you have all configs in one place. I guess it is convenient.

Part till period is up to your taste. This hint works with win7 x86 only.

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RE[3]: XP64 == XP
by DeadFishMan on Mon 14th Jun 2010 13:32 in reply to "RE[2]: XP64 == XP"
DeadFishMan Member since:
2006-01-09

I suppose, this could help in configuring - create new folder on desktop and name it:

GodMode.{ED7BA470-8E54-465E-825C-99712043E01C}

Now you have all configs in one place. I guess it is convenient.

Part till period is up to your taste. This hint works with win7 x86 only.


Hah! And then people tell me that *Linux* is full of cryptic commands... lol

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