Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 11th Jun 2010 21:27 UTC
Microsoft "Microsoft has fixed the distribution scope of a toolbar update that, without the user's knowledge, installed an add-on in Internet Explorer and an extension in Firefox called Search Helper Extension. Microsoft told us that the new update is actually the same as the old one; the only difference is the distribution settings. In other words, the update will no longer be distributed to toolbars that it shouldn't be added to. End users won't see the tweak, Microsoft told Ars, and also offered an explanation on what the mystery add-on actually does."
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RE[5]: Comment by marcp
by darknexus on Sun 13th Jun 2010 07:18 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by marcp"
darknexus
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2008-07-15

I didn't say the OP *needed* to modify anything, but it is an apt comparison. He said he used *only* free software. However, if the OP uses any of the things I asked about, that is demonstrably not true. My point is that principals are put aside for convenience, even by these supposed users of 100% free and only free software. Thus, I hate when people say stupid things like that, things that can be demonstrably proven false. Yet people like that look down on computer users of any proprietary software, when there's no real difference between them and the people they seem to hate. I hate the smug superiority and the false sense of elevation these people give off. So bottom line: No one has the ability to use *only* free software, even if that's all you use on your general purpose computer. So people need to stop telling falsehoods.

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RE[6]: Comment by marcp
by UltraZelda64 on Sun 13th Jun 2010 08:39 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by marcp"
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

I'll just say that while I completely get your point, your examples were just not very good. I agree with your argument that it's kind of ironic when someone says they "never" do something or use whatever (especially when they may in fact do so without realizing it), but to be fair, it should have been pretty clear that the person was specifically referring to general-purpose computers. If the OP owns a car and drives, I highly doubt he/she ever considered the car a computer or wanted to use (or program) it as such.

Why not just interpret what the OP said as something like:

"...I don't use *any* proprietary software [on my computers] just to make sure my rights are satisfied."

A little more to the point and descriptive and most likely what he meant. Let's just leave appliances out of it and it makes perfect sense. It should be clear this person is not talking about his VCR, microwave, washing machine, dryer, car or whatever else... he's referring to his personal computers; desktop PCs, laptops, netbooks, etc. The things that are built to be re-programmable. I'm sure the OP did NOT mean what you interpreted it as.

Basically, what I'm saying is, you're probably just getting upset over a misinterpretation of what the OP originally said. Don't take it like he's trying to be a hypocrite just for the hell of it to spread lies or something. ;)

Anyway... I'm outta here. Why the hell am I here wasting my time clearing up a miscommunication between two random people on the Internet anyway? LOL. Man, I must be bored.

Edited 2010-06-13 08:44 UTC

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RE[7]: Comment by marcp
by marcp on Sun 13th Jun 2010 09:28 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by marcp"
marcp Member since:
2007-11-23

"A little more to the point and descriptive and most likely what he meant. Let's just leave appliances out of it and it makes perfect sense. It should be clear this person is not talking about his VCR, microwave, washing machine, dryer, car or whatever else... he's referring to his personal computers; desktop PCs, laptops, netbooks, etc. The things that are built to be re-programmable. I'm sure the OP did NOT mean what you interpreted it as.

Basically, what I'm saying is, you're probably just getting upset over a misinterpretation of what the OP originally said. Don't take it like he's trying to be a hypocrite just for the hell of it to spread lies or something"

And this is exactly what I meant. Darknexus seems to have a problem of some sort with interpreting other people's words, because he probobly sees in black and white scheme only [linux enthusiasts and 'bad, commercial apps world, while most of the ppl here knows that linux is just a friggin' tip of the iceberg]. I'd probobly say I was talking about the computers but isn't it OBVIOUS on osnews.com? plus - darknexus' argument about closed source appliances works other way round too: there are plenty of stuff with opensourced code used in cars, microwaves, vcrs and so on [but that was NOT my point. I was referring to the things i HAVE an influence on and I was talking about PCs].
Keep it real darknexus and don't let yout false sense of your intellectual self-reliability and self-esteem to mess with the real meaning of other people's words. I'm not playing a role in your play, I don't even use linux as my main OS of choice ...

P.S your argument about my presumed superiority is completely ridiculous. I don't feel superior to anyone or anything because I don't need to. Besides - how on earth the OS you use would make you superior in any way ...? that's simply beyond me.

Edited 2010-06-13 09:36 UTC

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