Linked by Kroc Camen on Tue 15th Jun 2010 20:37 UTC, submitted by E Herchemals
Mandriva, Mandrake, Lycoris It seems that the previous news about Mandriva SA being for sale have been more than simple rumors. Frederic Cuif* (incorrectly unaccented due to limitations in our CMS), active member of the French-speaking Mandriva User Group has summed up the various outcomes and proposed projects he found after contacting several key members of the company in order to gather information. The result of his investigation can be found on his blog, along with a detailed analysis of the Mandriva business model and the proposed outcomes, from a renewed interest in the distribution and the community from Linagora, potential buyer, to what could be the end of the Mandriva adventure if nothing is done. (Thanks to everybody who submitted this)
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Mandriva has no real niche
by jokkel on Wed 16th Jun 2010 01:04 UTC
jokkel
Member since:
2008-07-07

The problem for Mandriva is, it doesn't really have a niche where it fits. It tries to be everything for everybody and in the end isn't that great for anybody. It had its time, but the good times have been over for several years now. Whenever I tried Mandriva during the last three years, I was disappointed. Too buggy and unpolished compared to the other big commercial players: Ubuntu/Canonical, (Open)Suse/Novell and RedHat.

I also have the feeling, that the community isn't that great anymore. I haven't checked in a while, but documentation was organized very confusingly for a long time.

Maybe Novell or RedHat might buy them for their customer list.

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RE: Mandriva has no real niche
by stabbyjones on Wed 16th Jun 2010 05:37 in reply to "Mandriva has no real niche"
stabbyjones Member since:
2008-04-15

Spot on!

I used mandriva when I was waiting for 2.6.27 to make it into Debian for something to do in the mean time and the only thing that stood out was how much it doesn't stand out.

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RE: Mandriva has no real niche
by WereCatf on Wed 16th Jun 2010 06:48 in reply to "Mandriva has no real niche"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

It tries to be everything for everybody and in the end isn't that great for anybody.

That's odd. I've used Mandriva for several years now and I have not found any other distro worth using. Like f.ex. I've always ran into major bugs and issues when trying out Ubuntu, and I really really dislike how they've relaxed the system security in order to please the less-technical audience. And Fedora? Well, for some reason it feels a whole lot slower then Mandriva, and whenever I tried to run anything in Wine the SELinux system coughed and crashed both. No thanks :S

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molnarcs Member since:
2005-09-10

I second that, for the past 3 or maybe 4 releases at least, Mandriva has been the best desktop OS, especially when it comes to KDE. I know that they have a very good GNOME offer too - overall, a really well balanced distribution. It might not be the fastest (well, according to some synthetic benchmarks on Phoronix at least), it might not be the most up-to-date(usually you have to wait a few weeks longer for the latest to arrive in the repos than you would with Kubuntu, OpenSuse or Fedora) - but the packages at least were very stable when they arrived.

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RE: Mandriva has no real niche
by spiderman on Wed 16th Jun 2010 08:16 in reply to "Mandriva has no real niche"
spiderman Member since:
2008-10-23

Too buggy and unpolished compared to the other big commercial players: Ubuntu/Canonical, (Open)Suse/Novell and RedHat.

I beg to differ. None of these excellent products have something as advanced and complete as the draktools.
Ubuntu/Canonical is very basic and does not provide the tools for desktop users. They rely on gnome, although gnome configuration tools are only related to gnome. The result is that the few configuration tools available are scattered all around the place and users are confused.
RedHat is excellent on support for servers but it does not cut it on the desktop where users don't like to play with man pages and the command line.
(Open)Suse/Novell is almost there but Yast is still not on par with the draktools.

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jokkel Member since:
2008-07-07

I'm not really a fan of the kitchensink approach of Yast and DrakeConf. I like the old Unix philosophy of small tools that do one job right better. In my experience it's easier to edit one configuration file once in a while.
This depends on usage of course. I know that there are lots of fans of these kinds of config software. It definetely has its users. I haven't missed it in Ubuntu so far.

Is it still the case, that Mandriva offers only support for two years after a release? That can be awfully short for bigger deployments. Canonical's LTS approach could be a way for Mandriva to please Admins.

I really like their PowerPack btw. If Canonical would offer something like that, I would buy it.

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RE: Mandriva has no real niche
by Nalle on Thu 17th Jun 2010 06:38 in reply to "Mandriva has no real niche"
Nalle Member since:
2005-07-06

Yes it has! Mandrive (as far as I have been able to find out) is the only distro for those with a GMA 500 graphic board but limited knoledge about getting things to work in Linux.

http://www.mydellmini.com/forum/other-distributions/15340-mandriva-...

It sure as hell doesn't work in Arch, *buntu or any other distro I've tried. *buntu have a third party solution ( https://edge.launchpad.net/gma500 ) that's in alpha stage and works for 2d, somehow, but that's a modified version of Mandrakes solution thet just plain work, from what I hear.

I, myself use Ubuntu with the solution linked to above, but I was a a couple of years Mandrake/Mandriva member once upon the time, so I've had enough of it, to be honest

./nalle.

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