Linked by Howard Fosdick on Tue 15th Jun 2010 21:06 UTC
Linux All of us who use computers create a problem we rarely consider. How do we dispose of them? This is no small concern. Estimates put the number of personal computers in use world-wide today at about one billion. The average lifespan of a personal computer is only two to five years. We can expect a tidal wave of computers ready for disposal shortly, and this number will only increase. And as if that isn't challenge enough, there are already several hundred million computers out-of-service, sitting in attics and basements and garages, awaiting disposal.
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What about Intel and AMD?
by soulrebel123 on Wed 16th Jun 2010 06:35 UTC
soulrebel123
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2009-05-13

I totally am a MS-hater, but when it comes to e-waste the real bad guys are the chip companies.
I don't think that different cpus cost that much different to manufacturers.
In a world that did not have profit, we would see only one or two cpus, built at the maximum possible level of technology. Goes without saying that hi-end cpu gets obsolete later.

The windows OEM license model, that ties it to the hardware, should be simply illegal, as what it is really a license to steal for MS. It has some implications on e-waste, but it's not the main issue.

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RE: What about Intel and AMD?
by BluenoseJake on Thu 17th Jun 2010 02:32 in reply to "What about Intel and AMD?"
BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

Chip companies never throw anything away. Have a wafer of chips that can't hit 3Ghz? Sell them as 2.8Ghz. Have a bunch of 4 cores that can't run all 4 reliably? Disable 1 and you have a 3 core. Disable 2 for dual core. Disable 3 and you have a celeron or sempron.

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RE: What about Intel and AMD?
by cerbie on Thu 17th Jun 2010 04:15 in reply to "What about Intel and AMD?"
cerbie Member since:
2006-01-02

They have to recoup R&D, get people buying the chips, and try to get enough money to feed everyone. Even without insane board member compensation, that's not cheap.

Then, they do use the highest level of technology. Intel and AMD, even having amputated and cultured Glofo, are at the forefront of chip-making technology, and you are getting the fruits of that in their released chips. Same w/ TSMC, save for being more oriented towards lower costs.

If they did not sell different speed grades, they would throw more things away. That's bad. While, after the first few runs, most chips can hit higher speeds, and are sold lower to keep the higher-speed prices high, it's still not a case where 100% hit the higher speeds, with no defects.

Without profit, what we might be able to get, in my view, is fair pricing, including cleaning up the waste produced from the manufacturing and distribution of the produced units being sold, as it would be less advantageous for industries to push that off to the future, and for governments to allow them to.

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