Linked by David Adams on Fri 18th Jun 2010 19:17 UTC
Linux Linux Magazine has a profile of Daniel Fore and the Elementary project. Elementary is a Linux distro that's committed to a clean and simple user experience, but it's more than a distro - it's actually a multi-pronged effort to make improvements to the user experience for a whole ecosystem of components, including icons, a GTK theme, Midori improvements, Nautilus, and even Firefox. The work that elementary is doing isn't limited to their own distro, and some of their work is available in current, and perhaps future, Ubuntu releases. The results are really striking, and I think it's probably the handsomest Linux UI I've ever seen.
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WereCatf
Member since:
2006-02-15

Oh so the CLI isn't ever needed for installing devices?

Ever? Well, you've never had to go to Windows Safe Mode after driver installation screwed up? Or never had OSX screw up permissions on system files? Nuh-uh, ever and never are such indefinite and precise words.

Yes, CLI is _sometimes_ needed, just as is Safe Mode for Windows etc. But usually? Often? No, atleast I haven't had to use CLI to install drivers for several years now.

Installing software outside the repository?

Double-click on the file, select "Install", and enter root password?

Installing software upgrades on 2 year old releases?

I have no idea how other distros do it, but all I had to do was click on the "Upgrade system" button when presented...

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nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26


Ever? Well, you've never had to go to Windows Safe Mode after driver installation screwed up? Or never had OSX screw up permissions on system files? Nuh-uh, ever and never are such indefinite and precise words.


Ok we're talking about Linux which you claimed doesn't require the CLI and I stated common cases where it does. Windows Safe Mode isn't a CLI and the system will fix itself with a driver restore. As for OSX I have seen it screw up file permissions twice and I fixed them without going to the command line. Furthermore in OSX that only happened after I was doing programming related activities. I sometimes help people with OSX and I've never been asked to solve that problem.


Double-click on the file, select "Install", and enter root password?

Explain this tutorial for a minor upgrade then:
http://jaxov.com/2009/09/install-upgrade-firefox-3-5-3-in-ubuntu-li...


I have no idea how other distros do it, but all I had to do was click on the "Upgrade system" button when presented...


That doesn't always work and users should not have to upgrade the system just to upgrade software, especially if the release is only 2 years old.
http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-openoffice-3.0.0-on-ubuntu...

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WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Ok we're talking about Linux which you claimed doesn't require the CLI and I stated common cases where it does. Windows Safe Mode isn't a CLI

Windows Safe Mode is still just another hassle. All OSes have their own. And again, I still don't see the reason to drop down to CLI. Even those suggestions where you're told to use apt-get can still be done with GUI tools, there does exist a graphical package manager for that, you know. Just because the author of the instructions insists on using CLI tools doesn't mean other ways don't exist.

Explain this tutorial for a minor upgrade then:
http://jaxov.com/2009/09/install-upgrade-firefox-3-5-3-in-ubuntu-li.....


I don't use Ubuntu. It's a horrible distro.

That doesn't always work and users should not have to upgrade the system just to upgrade software, especially if the release is only 2 years old.
http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-openoffice-3.0.0-on-ubuntu.....


That I actually do agree with to some extent. Rolling distros handle such a lot more graciously but they often come with their own set of issues. I tried ArchLinux which is a rolling distro, but it's a helluva mess to set up and in no way beginner-friendly, not even close to it.

Edited 2010-06-19 21:56 UTC

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Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

Explain this tutorial for a minor upgrade then:
http://jaxov.com/2009/09/install-upgrade-firefox-3-5-3-in-ubuntu-li...

As I said before, a lot of Linux tutorials are written by CLI freaks who never miss an occasion to use command-line and hand-editing of config files even if they obviously don't need too. I just can't count the number of occurences of this. They say that it's because it ensures that it works on all configurations. I just wonder why they don't just provide easily-runnable script shells along with their tutorials then.

Edited 2010-06-19 22:00 UTC

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