Linked by David Adams on Fri 18th Jun 2010 19:17 UTC
Linux Linux Magazine has a profile of Daniel Fore and the Elementary project. Elementary is a Linux distro that's committed to a clean and simple user experience, but it's more than a distro - it's actually a multi-pronged effort to make improvements to the user experience for a whole ecosystem of components, including icons, a GTK theme, Midori improvements, Nautilus, and even Firefox. The work that elementary is doing isn't limited to their own distro, and some of their work is available in current, and perhaps future, Ubuntu releases. The results are really striking, and I think it's probably the handsomest Linux UI I've ever seen.
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wargum
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2006-12-15

Yes. That is probably terrible to have to upgrade the whole OS for Open Office. Not having ever had such a problem nor used Ubuntu for more than a few days, I would not know what it entails to upgrade Ubuntu.

Man, this is a totally common problem. I once tried to install a decent media player on CentOS, Songbird. There just wasn't any version for it. Later when switching to Ubuntu LTS there was a third party package I could use (downloadable through a website that didn't list the Ubuntu versions by number but by name like 'Dapper Drake', great...) but FF and OOo couldn't be used in their newest incarnations. Awful.

Furthermore, what could Open Office 3.0 do that the previous version couldn't?

Yeah, why not stick to Claris Works, had everything you'd ever wish...

Seriously, this is an insulting question!

However, I fail to see how searching for a directory in Finder and then deleting it is superior to or quicker than typing apt-get purge [package] in an already open terminal.

You must be kidding me... Yeah, we all open 10 terminal windows when logged in, just in case...
BTW, I would guess that uninstalling an application is actually a very rare task a typical user performs.

I also don't see how the OSX method is better than some GUI package manager -- with a package manager, you know you are removing hidden symlinks and user config files.

There are hardly any hidden symlinks in OS X applications. And config files aren't an issue. They are tiny, who cares? Only a nerd would. And he can do the task manually.

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tupp Member since:
2006-11-12

Man, this is a totally common problem. I once tried to install a decent media player on CentOS, Songbird. There just wasn't any version for it. Later when switching to Ubuntu LTS there was a third party package I could use (downloadable through a website that didn't list the Ubuntu versions by number but by name like 'Dapper Drake', great...) but FF and OOo couldn't be used in their newest incarnations. Awful.

Yea. That's almost as bad as when Apple requires one to upgrade OSX with almost every new release of Final Cut Pro, and other big programs. The main difference is that OSX upgrades can sometimes cost money!

Awful.


Yeah, why not stick to Claris Works, had everything you'd ever wish...

Well, is there actually much of a difference between OO 2.8 and OO 3.0?


Seriously, this is an insulting question!

Gee, I am really sorry if you were insulted.


You must be kidding me... Yeah, we all open 10 terminal windows when logged in, just in case...

A lot of Linux power users usually have one terminal open -- no kidding.


BTW, I would guess that uninstalling an application is actually a very rare task a typical user performs.

So what?


There are hardly any hidden symlinks in OS X applications. And config files aren't an issue. They are tiny, who cares? Only a nerd would. And he can do the task manually.

Right. Who cares?... because uninstalling apps is easy on OSX: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=11572945

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Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

Well, is there actually much of a difference between OO 2.8 and OO 3.0?

I second that. From my point of view, OO 3.2, which recently replaced 2.4 on the Windows 2000 computer which I use at work, changed exactly three things in Writer :
1/Look : the toolbar changed slightly, and text and array selection look much nicer now.
2/Startup times : On this old Latitude C840 piece of shit, every reduction in disk acesses is much welcome.
3/Better docx compatibility : Who cares ? Office 97/2000/XP's doc is still the standard here and I open docxes around one time a month...

There were some nice additions to Draw in 3.0, though, if I remember well. But that's about all I can think of. It's still as shitty as ever compared to competitors in the areas of bibliography, table handling, and UI clutter. I was pissed off that Sun called that update a major release, just like when they released VirtualBox 3 (thoug with the DirectX/OpenGL stuff, VBox 3 could at least somewhat bear this name...)

Edited 2010-06-20 09:03 UTC

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