Linked by David Adams on Sun 20th Jun 2010 03:06 UTC, submitted by fran
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Microsoft has Windows Mobile 6.x (on the way out) Windows Phone 7, Windows Embedded Standard 7, Windows Embedded Compact 7 and then Windows 7 for tablet PCs and netbooks. What this bevy of systems is missing is a coherent answer for the tablet form factor. Windows Embedded Compact 7, which is the OS aimed at the mobile sector, isn't yet released, and when it is, it won't have a uniform UI, but will depend on hardware vendors to customize. It's an appealing strategy from the vendors point of view, I guess because they get to differentiate their products from their competitors, but it's not a recipe for success.
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I didn't know the ipad is the device
by Phloptical on Sun 20th Jun 2010 14:57 UTC
Phloptical
Member since:
2006-10-10

to kill? Claiming it's the king of the hill, only a couple of months into it's lifecycle, is jumping the gun a little, don't you think? It's one tablet, that does things a little differently, but still has yet to have a home, and really do anything better than anyone else, or even the ipod touch for that matter.

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Moochman Member since:
2005-07-06

I think it is cool and yet simultaneous wish it death. It has less to do with market share and more to do with the fact that when Apple says jump everyone else follows. Let me elaborate:

When the iPhone came out, all the other smartphone makers jumped on the capacitive, keyboard-free bandwagon. Nowadays it's hard to get a smartphone in any other form factor. That sucks, particularly the lack of keyboard. I hate soft-keyboards, whether "magically" enhanced by Apple or not.

Same with the iPad: Now all the great netbook makers are, instead of coming out with innovative netbook ideas, channeling all their energies into creating iPad clones--keyboardless and capacitive. The capacitive aspect is especially annoying because it almost always means lack of stylus input--which is a crying shame on a device of that form factor.

Unfortunately, the manufacturers let style trump substance, a game Apple always wins--so the copycat manufacturers are really just shooting themselves in the foot. If they were to offer something with distinct advantages over the iPhone, while still maintaining a high degree of style, fit and finish, they would have a lot more takers.

A few trailblazers like Asus offer netbooks with multitouch and stylus support, and I applaud them. Unfortunately though their current line suffers from Windows 7 slowness and mediocre build quality, which has limited its uptake. But at least they keep innovating instead of just copying others.

Edited 2010-06-20 22:38 UTC

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mckill Member since:
2007-06-12

because Asus never copies anyone. Asus actually doesn't have a strategy which you seem to think, they just make average products and target every single market that they can.

they're just like Dell at the end of the day, they'd rather focus on market share than make a few great products.

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gtada Member since:
2005-10-12

Innovation requires R&D. R&D requires a lot of money. Why not learn from the lessons learned by others?

You think the soft keyboards are a "style" thing? You're crazy. Most likely it's a cost issue related to manufacturing. Capacitive touchscreens are most likely expensive, and so are the keyboards. Physical keyboards add cost and add a potential point of failure. The smartphone market is hyper-competitive, and cost IS an issue. They probably chose to include one or the other (cap. touchscreen or keyboard), but I doubt it was a style issue.

When have netbooks ever been "innovative"? Again I think you're crazy. A miniature laptop is still just a laptop. Hell, Toshiba built their Libretto LAPTOP ages ago. This "netbook" thing was just a marketing ploy by Asus to sell their EEE's.

Dell had a Latitude XT laptop a few years back... multitouch and stylus support. The Asus "netbooks" are just smaller versions of that.

I have yet to see any true innovation from any netbook manufacturer. Apple did a lot of the heavy lifting and came out with a great solution; why wouldn't the others take advantage?

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Phloptical Member since:
2006-10-10

I agree with you, in that, a competitor to Apple needs to produce a device that does not just give you the "Me Too" features, but truly innovates, and brings something new to the party.

For all the shininess and "Wow" factor, I'm sure there are must-have features that a competitor such as Google, or a hardware competitor like HTC can design into their product line. And I don't mean a forward facing camera. I don't think Apple thought of everything when it comes to the ipad.

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tyrione Member since:
2005-11-21

to kill? Claiming it's the king of the hill, only a couple of months into it's lifecycle, is jumping the gun a little, don't you think? It's one tablet, that does things a little differently, but still has yet to have a home, and really do anything better than anyone else, or even the ipod touch for that matter.


In a year's time since it's first release and estimate 12+ million units sold you'll be rethinking your jumping the gun comment.

Hell, iPhone 4 will sell 2 to 3 times as many as the iPhone 3GS sold.

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