Linked by David Adams on Wed 30th Jun 2010 16:25 UTC, submitted by tecepeipe
Java We don't cover the development platform wars as much as we should. But wherever you fall in the epic battle between .NET, Java, and LAMP, you'll probably enjoy the video after the jump.
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Nice and ringing to my heart
by dvhh on Wed 30th Jun 2010 17:41 UTC
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Member since:
2006-03-20

.net is still nice but most .net dev forget about platform portability (Mono or even older .net version).
And I admit that year after java ms is bound to avoid sun's pitfalls.
However they still keep their own domain strong, .net on the desktop, java on the server (java still got bad press about heavyweight gui, and .net still lack of a tomcat equivalent in the server world).
I have a deep interest with scala, the language that could renew the java platform in a proper motion.

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RE: Nice and ringing to my heart
by Hiev on Wed 30th Jun 2010 17:48 in reply to "Nice and ringing to my heart"
Hiev Member since:
2005-09-27

True, but for someone who has 100% of their customers on MS platforms, .NET is gift that and Java can't compare.

Edited 2010-06-30 17:53 UTC

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vivainio Member since:
2008-12-26

True, but for someone who has 100% of their customers on MS platforms, .NET is gift that and Java can't compare.


And especially someone that plans to always have 100% of their customers on MS platforms.

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ramasubbu_sk Member since:
2007-04-05

yeah, its true!

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KermitTheFragger Member since:
2008-06-12

for someone who has 100% of their customers on MS platforms, .NET is gift that and Java can't compare.


No argument there. The reason for that is obvious; The first .NET framework release was basically a fork of Java, geared towards usage on Windows. Starting from 2.0 Microsoft got more original.

The question remains is that something you want ? To get so dependant on a single vendor.

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modmans2ndcoming Member since:
2005-11-09

If only developers who thought Java was super great had to support the back-end servers that run their enterprise applications.

One of our vendors is replacing their Java application with an ASP.net rewrite. I have seen the product and I have to tell you...the application server under load does not even have half the memory footprint and keeps CPU utilization under 30%

I don't care what Java app server you use, it will be chunky and slow.

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Kebabbert Member since:
2007-07-27

One of our vendors is replacing their Java application with an ASP.net rewrite. I have seen the product and I have to tell you...the application server under load does not even have half the memory footprint and keeps CPU utilization under 30%

The reasoning above has an error, similar to "I have installed Vista on a NEW computer, and it flies. Vista is sure faster than Windows XP".

But, what would happen if you installed WinXP on this new fast computer? It would be much faster than Vista.

The point is, when you rewrite code, it will always be faster than the old code (unless you are incompetent). A full rewrite in Java would also be faster.


I don't care what Java app server you use, it will be chunky and slow.

Sure. But NASDAQ's newest stock exchange system is developed in Java, and it is one of the world's fastest exchange system. So it is possible to write large Enterprise server systems in Java. But it seems you had some problems.

Edited 2010-07-03 09:07 UTC

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