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RE[4]: Comment by mtzmtulivu
by mtzmtulivu on Sat 3rd Jul 2010 04:02
in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by mtzmtulivu"
The problem I have lays with the features Opera doesn't provide when compared to what Safari provides or the fact that a certain website doesn't load with Opera but works perfectly fine with Safari. Those are the comparisons that I believe should be done and not the, quite frankly, trivial sh-t based on ones subjective feels.
And here lies the core of the complain, a review of this browser here seem to come from people who are irritated enough to bother to write about those irritations and not what the browser has to offer to users of web browsers. There
ok, so lets say opera decides to add all the features that are in safari most safari users want and the next review will come from somebody who complain because it doesnt have all the features they like in firefox and if opera add those too, the review will come from a person who is complaining because it doesnt have all the features they want from chrome. Adding those too and a review will come from somebody complaining about too much bloat even though in term of disk space usage, opera takes the least amount of memory with all the features it provides out of the box.
There is too much focus on the negativity in reviews of this browser here for some reason.
RE[5]: Comment by mtzmtulivu
by kaiwai on Sat 3rd Jul 2010 08:11
in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by mtzmtulivu"
There is too much focus on the negativity in reviews of this browser here for some reason.
Because it doesn't step up and provide a viable alternative; again, users want OOP, Tab process isolation, 64bitness with interoperability between 32bit and 64bit plugins, better security, lower memory usage, and hogs the CPU less. It has nothing to do with negativity by reviews on here, it has to do with Opera developers not stepping up to the crease and providing an alternative that meets those minimum expectations users have of their browser.
Again, I provided a laundry list of grievances and you seem to be ignoring in them by claiming that that I'm spewing negativity from an unnamed source. I'm not spewing unsubstantiated grievances - they do actually exist and they do need addressing. Until those issues are addressed people like me will continue to moan, groan and write 'negative' reviews because Opera fails to step up and provide what I want from a web browser. It has nothing to do with preferences it has to do with Opera failing to meet the minimum standard that end users expect these days in a web browser.





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For me when I review something it has nothing to do with personal preferences; my complaints aren't related to the icons or the menu layout because quite frankly they're things I can adjust to after a few weeks/months of use. The problem I have lays with the features Opera doesn't provide when compared to what Safari provides or the fact that a certain website doesn't load with Opera but works perfectly fine with Safari. Those are the comparisons that I believe should be done and not the, quite frankly, trivial sh-t based on ones subjective feels.
Unfortunately it is a whole lot easier to write an article whining about personal preferences than knuckling down and doing an in depth comparison between Opera vs. the rest. There is a discussing taking place very much like this on Arstechnica where long time readers are bemoaning the loss of the in depth technology based articles where a CPU architecture would be dissected and explained. These days it seems that websites are turned into news arrogation services with the occasional article that sounds like a combination of marketing and personal preference.
The plugin on Opera for Mac does not launch as a separate process, so if you have a run away flash ad then you're pretty much SOL. Opera really needs to lift its game because right it reminds me of the browsers from 5 years ago - time has moved on. End users want more stability, faster fetching of pages, faster execution of javascript and they don't want the thing to hog the CPU and suck up battery life. The other browsers so far have gotten that - Opera developers seem to be stuck in 2005.
Edited 2010-07-03 03:03 UTC