Linked by David Adams on Mon 5th Jul 2010 18:30 UTC, submitted by fran
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless In an ill omen for Symbian fans, the publisher of Symbian-Guru is abandoning the platform: "As of today, I will no longer be updating Symbian-Guru.com, and will be purchasing an Android-powered smartphone - my new Nexus One should arrive tomorrow. I've been a Nokia fanboy since 1999, and a Symbian fanboy since I got my Nokia 6620 in summer of 2004. Since then, I've personally owned 10+ different Symbian-powered smartphones, and have reviewed nearly every Symbian-powered smartphone that's been released in the past 3 years or so. I've tried to use all of Nokia's various products and services to the best of my ability, and I just can't do it anymore." His post continues with an exploration of the sorry state of Symbian and Nokia that only a once-true-believer could have written.
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RE: Symbian's future is low-end.
by vivainio on Tue 6th Jul 2010 06:05 UTC in reply to "Symbian's future is low-end."
vivainio
Member since:
2008-12-26


Even Nokia don't think it's possible to make Symbian truly compelling in the time they have available and are reaching out to Intel to partner with them to bring their Meego mobile platform to fruition.


MeeGo didn't happen because Nokia needs Intel to make a good phone - it happened because it's better use of resources to co-operate, and third parties prefer a bigger ecosystem than either Maemo or Moblin alone would have been.

Symbian won't really be a liability as far as making nice UI goes (it'll be all about Qt for both MeeGo and Symbian). You could argue that MeeGo can be more compelling for developers because it's based on well-known Linux components.

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steviant Member since:
2006-01-11

MeeGo didn't happen because Nokia needs Intel to make a good phone - it happened because it's better use of resources to co-operate, and third parties prefer a bigger ecosystem than either Maemo or Moblin alone would have been.


I'm suggesting that time is of the essence when it comes to creating a platform to compete with iPhone and Android, and Meego is likely to reach parity with those platforms sooner than Symbian. Nokia feels it's so important to build their new platform quickly that they've thrown their lot in with someone who could soon be a major hardware competitor. I think that shows a bit of desperation to get Meego to market quickly.

Symbian won't really be a liability as far as making nice UI goes (it'll be all about Qt for both MeeGo and Symbian). You could argue that MeeGo can be more compelling for developers because it's based on well-known Linux components.


Again, I don't think Symbian is beyond salvation, just that time is of the essence, and even Nokia don't think their plan to save Symbian is going to come to fruition quickly enough to save their share price.

My guess is that Symbian will continue the current trend of being late to the party when it comes to the features of more modern mobile platforms, though it may never stagnate in the way Nokia allowed it to in recent years.

And it's that delay that is going to see it relegated to low end devices, even if Qt wallpapers over many of the quirks of Symbian's programming model.

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spiderman Member since:
2008-10-23


My guess is that Symbian will continue the current trend of being late to the party when it comes to the features of more modern mobile platforms, though it may never stagnate in the way Nokia allowed it to in recent years.

What does Symbian miss exactly?
The only thing I can think of is an organic UI to make it look cool but the UI is not part of the OS in Symbian (although there is a reference UI). I believe that it comes with more features than other "modern" platforms. I can't think about anything it does not have and other mobile platforms are still catching up. iOS just got multitasking.

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vivainio Member since:
2008-12-26

Nokia feels it's so important to build their new platform quickly that they've thrown their lot in with someone who could soon be a major hardware competitor. I think that shows a bit of desperation to get Meego to market quickly.


If anything, MeedGo initiative is slowing things down in short term (due to alignment work); next MeeGo device we are seeing is what was initially supposed to be Maemo6 device (wholly developed by Nokia). MeeGo is a long term ecosystem play, and we'll see the alliance paying off in mid/long term.

It does provide a much more interesting platform for community involvement, as "nokia only" community is not really the same thing.

Edited 2010-07-06 14:46 UTC

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