Linked by Eugenia Loli on Sun 18th Jul 2010 09:32 UTC
Multimedia, AV I'm a couch potato. There, I've said it. I love sitting down and watching sci-fi movies, like any good geek would. And this is an (almost religious) action that hasn't changed for many, many, years. But I feel that we're in for a surprise soon. The way we watch TV and access content is about to change. TV watching will at last arrive into the 21st Century, and the technology giants will be there to duke it out for the reins of this new industry.
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RE[4]: other players
by nt_jerkface on Sun 18th Jul 2010 20:11 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: other players"
nt_jerkface
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2009-08-26

PDA phones were an obvious and natural progression given that both PDAs and phones already existed.

I think there will definitely be an embedded media OS battle in the near future but it will be spread across a range of devices including blu-ray players and receivers. As for that battle resulting in a standardized platform for developers......not likely.

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RE[5]: other players
by kaiwai on Sun 18th Jul 2010 23:53 in reply to "RE[4]: other players"
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2005-07-06

PDA phones were an obvious and natural progression given that both PDAs and phones already existed.

I think there will definitely be an embedded media OS battle in the near future but it will be spread across a range of devices including blu-ray players and receivers. As for that battle resulting in a standardized platform for developers......not likely.


The issue is also if everything is thrown in the television you're going to have a device that does 100 things half assed rather than a few core competencies very well. We've already seen it with mobile phones with hundreds of features and each of these features sucking worse than if they were put in separate dedicated devices. The only thing I've seen convergence do is bring a whole heap of cheap crappy components together in a single device and selling it to the gullible masses as an revolutionary change when in reality it is a step backwards.

Give me a mobile with long battery life and reliable reception, give me a media player with great sound quality, give me a television that is easy to use and only the features required rather than a whole heap of crap that I'll never use in the life of the product (look on your remote and count how many buttons you'll never touch in the whole time you've owned the said television in front of you). Are there people with feature fetish? sure but the vast majority just want what they have to be easier to use and for the features that are included actually work rather than simply there to meet some arbitrary list of features the marketing people think the device must have.

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RE[6]: other players
by nt_jerkface on Mon 19th Jul 2010 01:01 in reply to "RE[5]: other players"
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2009-08-26

The issue is also if everything is thrown in the television you're going to have a device that does 100 things half assed rather than a few core competencies very well.


Very true and we have certainly seen that in other devices.

Another downside is that you end up with multiple points of failure. One reason why I don't keep an HTPC in the living room is because I don't want a general purpose OS near my HDTV when I only use it for games and movies. It's overkill and would be more likely to have an issue than the OS in my 360 or Blu-ray player.

I work on general purpose systems all day long, when I turn on my HDTV it is going to get a signal from either the 360 or the Blu-ray player. There is no need for a general purpose OS to get involved in that process.

Edited 2010-07-19 01:02 UTC

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RE[5]: other players
by HappyGod on Sun 18th Jul 2010 23:59 in reply to "RE[4]: other players"
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2005-10-19

PDA phones were an obvious and natural progression given that both PDAs and phones already existed.


Actually, I think that the TV turning into a computer-esque device is a more natural progression than the PDA/Phone scenario you described.

People have been talking about the all-singing, all-dancing box in the living room pretty much for ever, and I think it makes sense to integrate that into the TV. It's like everyone knows it's going to happen, but no one knows how; or when.

I think Eugenia is right though. It feels like it's close now. Here in Australia, Foxtel already have a product that does the media centre stuff (basically a TiVo for cable), and I definitely don't see it as a stretch to add iPhone-like functionality.

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RE[6]: other players
by nt_jerkface on Mon 19th Jul 2010 00:38 in reply to "RE[5]: other players"
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2009-08-26

People have been talking about the all-singing, all-dancing box in the living room pretty much for ever, and I think it makes sense to integrate that into the TV.


Using an HDTV as a secondary browser is one thing but I don't think that means it makes sense to pack all the hardware inside the television.

Set-top boxes and Blu-ray players already have cpus that are better for browsing and streaming. I think it makes more sense to have a magic black box in the living room that can do everything and can be upgraded every few years without having to buy a new HDTV. Everything is going to standardize around 720p and 1080p so people are not going to be interested in buying a new 50" HDTV just so they can browse the web and stream movie rentals.

As for general purpose computing in the living room I don't see that happening anytime soon. I think people will continue to view televisions as entertainment devices and general computing as something that takes place on a laptop or desktop.

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RE[6]: other players
by phoenix on Mon 19th Jul 2010 22:30 in reply to "RE[5]: other players"
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2005-07-11

It doesn't make sense to include a full-blown computer into the TV. It makes a lot more sense to have a full-blown computer sitting next to the TV with a simple audio/video link between them.

What's next? I have to buy my TV from the cable company, as they've locked it down to only work with their setup? I have to buy my TV from Netflix in order to have it work with Netflix?

Keep TVs dumb devices. Put all the smarts in a small little box next to it.

The only people who will "win" from integating everything into the TV ... are the TV makers.

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