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SuSE, openSUSE Long time fans of openSUSE Linux and its commercial big brother, Novell's SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop, will find a lot to like in this latest update.
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Huh?
by bornagainenguin on Tue 20th Jul 2010 22:20 UTC
bornagainenguin
Member since:
2005-08-07

I've been using SUSE Linux since its start in 1994 and then, as now, I like this strong desktop Linux distribution. Of course, openSUSE 11.3, the latest version, doesn't look a lot like that vintage Slackware variant, but one thing has remained the same.


Was I the only one who went WTF at this line which seems to imply SuSE had its roots in Slackware?

--bornagainpenguin

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RE: Huh?
by strestout1 on Tue 20th Jul 2010 22:40 in reply to "Huh?"
strestout1 Member since:
2010-06-08

being a longtime linux user, I thought the same, but I looked it up on wikipedia and lookie what I found:

<blockquote>The company started its activities as a service company, which among other things regularly released software packages that included SLS and Slackware, printed UNIX/Linux manuals, and offered technical assistance. In mid-1992, Softlanding Linux System (SLS, now defunct) was founded by Peter MacDonald, and was the first comprehensive distribution to contain elements such as X and TCP/IP.[citation needed] The Slackware distribution (maintained by Patrick Volkerding) was initially based largely on SLS, and the SUSE Linux distribution was originally a German translation of Slackware Linux.</blockquote>

Learn something new every day.

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RE: Huh?
by lubod on Wed 21st Jul 2010 09:19 in reply to "Huh?"
lubod Member since:
2009-02-02

No, you were NOT!

OpenSuSE is based on SuSE Linux, which (a long time ago) was forked from Redhat (RPM based).

Corrections welcome.

:-)

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RE[2]: Huh?
by vivainio on Wed 21st Jul 2010 09:50 in reply to "RE: Huh?"
vivainio Member since:
2008-12-26


OpenSuSE is based on SuSE Linux, which (a long time ago) was forked from Redhat (RPM based).

Corrections welcome.


http://lwn.net/1998/0205/suse.html

Or better:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUSE_Linux_distributions

Thus, the company was sending a set of 40 Slackware floppy disks to people who wanted to get Linux. Thereafter, the Patrick Volkerding' scripts were translated, making in 1994 the original S.u.S.E Linux 1.0 distribution a German version of Slackware, developed in close collaboration with its developer.


Edited 2010-07-21 09:53 UTC

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RE[2]: Huh?
by cjcox on Wed 21st Jul 2010 14:49 in reply to "RE: Huh?"
cjcox Member since:
2006-12-21

Well.. openSUSE is actually the successor to what was SuSE Linux Professional, but it's really "different". So you could really say that SuSE Linux Professional "died" and now we have openSUSE.. that's probably more correct. Yes... openSUSE has evolved to become what it is today.

Neither SuSE Prof. nor openSUSE had ANYTHING to do with Red Hat with the exception of the adoption of the "Red Hat" Package Manger. Prior to that, afaik, it used the tar-ball format like Slackware (the earliest roots of SUSE Linux).

SuSE Linux Professional was known for including non-free elements which prevent it's free distribution (unlike Red Hat which was freely and WIDELY distributed under the Red Hat trademark by hundreds if not THOUSANDS of would be money makers in a plethora of commercially available formats, stores, etc.). Some of the non-free elements included things like commercial trial prodcut ware and originally, YaST. YaST was eventually made totally free (Novell actually helped support many freedom moves after the acquisition). The 3rd party add-ons (anything with a non-OSS approved license) were moved to a separate repository so that it was possible to download a totally OSS version of openSUSE and distribute freely (as long as OSS license terms were met). Thus, like Fedora (for example), there could be a distributable distro protected by trademark (something that I think you argue that Red Hat lost back in the 90's by NOT preventing the plethora of resellers using their name).

Anyway... history is interesting.

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