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SuSE, openSUSE Long time fans of openSUSE Linux and its commercial big brother, Novell's SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop, will find a lot to like in this latest update.
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RE: zypper
by sorpigal on Wed 21st Jul 2010 16:31 UTC in reply to "zypper"
sorpigal
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2005-11-02

This kind of friendly I don't want.

Yes, you could write an apt front end that prompts you and asks "Would you like me to break your system?" The reason this hasn't happened is because it's a bad idea and nobody sane wants it. Breaking things *should be hard* and require much more deliberate action than just saying "yes" to a prompt you didn't read anyway.

A better reaction to the above prompt would be to ask "Who released a distribution with broken dependencies?" What is spectacle and why did it get into a release repo without its required dependencies?

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RE[2]: zypper
by vivainio on Wed 21st Jul 2010 16:45 in reply to "RE: zypper"
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2008-12-26

Breaking things *should be hard* and require much more deliberate action than just saying "yes" to a prompt you didn't read anyway.


Actually, "yes" is not a valid answer, you have to choose 2) (which means you will read the prompt).


A better reaction to the above prompt would be to ask "Who released a distribution with broken dependencies?" What is spectacle and why did it get into a release repo without its required dependencies?


This is not a release repo, it's a work-in-progress repository for MeeGo toolchain (for opensuse).

Spectacle generates rpm .spec files from yaml files, and PyYAML was apparently not packaged (but it was still listed as a dependency - a packaging bug, but something I can live with).

I've learned that in real life "this is unacceptable" is not a good approach when something is broken. Rather, I prefer "give me a 3 minute workaround and I'm good". Therefore, zypper is a better realpolitik tool than apt-get, for me at least.

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RE[3]: zypper
by sorpigal on Wed 21st Jul 2010 16:49 in reply to "RE[2]: zypper"
sorpigal Member since:
2005-11-02

There exists a perfectly good "3 minute workaround" for apt, too, which I know you already know based on your other comment. The only difference is apt doesn't tell you which command to run. That's not a big deal to me and I like that it requires more advanced knowledge to get in to real trouble.

Incidentally, it's aptitude these days. apt-get is unmaintained.

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