Linked by gsyoungblood on Tue 20th Jul 2010 18:01 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless On July 15th the latest Android super-phone was released by Motorola and Verizon Wireless. All hail the Droid X. The release was not without controversy though. The Droid X, while greatly raising the bar for Android phones in general, does so at the expense of the very power users and community that made the original Droid the gotta-have phone it became. Alienating this group may have far reaching consequences for Motorola.
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RE[5]: uggg
by WorknMan on Thu 22nd Jul 2010 19:17 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: uggg"
WorknMan
Member since:
2005-11-13

Allowing custom ROMS makes piracy easier.

Are you going to deny this?


Yes. It's quite trivial to install pirated apps on a non-rooted phone with the vendor-supplied OS. Just enable installing from outside sources, download a .apk file from the dark web, feed it to your phone, and you're good to go. I do it myself, but only because I don't like having my credit card charged for the 24-hour trial, and I always buy the apps I like. I do not condone piracy. (Note: My phone was rooted about a week ago, but I haven't installed any custom roms yet.)

BTW: The DroidX has been rooted:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/droid-x-can-now-be-counted-among...

Edited 2010-07-22 19:23 UTC

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The Arms Race Continues...
by bornagainenguin on Thu 22nd Jul 2010 20:12 in reply to "RE[5]: uggg"
bornagainenguin Member since:
2005-08-07

WorknMan announced...



...and now back to Motorola's side of the field where their team of engineers will attempt to hold up their end of the whack-a-mole game. There's a David and Goliath fight if there ever were one! On this side the handful of over worked and underpaid Motorola engineers, on that side a teaming mass of people all determined to have an unfettered mini-computer that can do phone calls with nothing but time on their side...

Heh. It hardly seems fair does it? Of course just because its been rooted doesn't mean the trouble is over, on the contrary it means the struggle has just begun!

--bornagainpenguin

PS: Link seems to be down for some reason...anyone else having this issue or is it just me?

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RE[6]: uggg
by nt_jerkface on Sat 24th Jul 2010 04:27 in reply to "RE[5]: uggg"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

Yes. It's quite trivial to install pirated apps on a non-rooted phone with the vendor-supplied OS.


Custom ROMs allow apps to be stored on the sd disk along with an archive of pirated games. So yes allowing custom ROMs makes piracy easier.


Just enable installing from outside sources, download a .apk file from the dark web, feed it to your phone, and you're good to go.


Yes I am quite aware of how easy it is. Google really screwed up by offering little protection for developers.


BTW: The DroidX has been rooted:


Well the bootloader hasn't been cracked yet so don't get too excited.

But to really lock down a device like a phone the OS and apps need to be tied together. The PS3 uses a well designed model where even if the firmware is someday hacked a newer game or psn access can require a firmware overwrite.

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RE[7]: uggg
by dizzey on Sat 24th Jul 2010 09:51 in reply to "RE[6]: uggg"
dizzey Member since:
2005-10-15

"Custom ROMs allow apps to be stored on the sd disk along with an archive of pirated games. So yes allowing custom ROMs makes piracy easier. "

that would be more flexible it still easy to pirate the apps and the internal storage are massive. so saying that the modified roms simplify just aint true.

the real purpose is to get folks to buy new phones more often that is the way Motorola makes money, well unless people cant se through their schemes and don't buy phones that wont get updates.

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RE[7]: uggg
by Zifre on Sat 24th Jul 2010 17:57 in reply to "RE[6]: uggg"
Zifre Member since:
2009-10-04

Custom ROMs allow apps to be stored on the sd disk along with an archive of pirated games. So yes allowing custom ROMs makes piracy easier.

I suppose that is marginally easier, but by no means does it increase piracy by any significant amount.

Yes I am quite aware of how easy it is. Google really screwed up by offering little protection for developers.

No, Google did the right thing by not requiring developer to pay $99 to try development *cough Apple cough*

And by the way, I am a developer. I don't want or need any such "protection".

But to really lock down a device like a phone the OS and apps need to be tied together. The PS3 uses a well designed model where even if the firmware is someday hacked a newer game or psn access can require a firmware overwrite.

I really hope you aren't suggesting that this is a good model to follow...

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