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Red Hat CentOS, with almost 30% of all Linux servers. The Red Hat Enterprise Linux-derived distro is #1 according to Web Technology Surveys.
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RE[2]: Really a good distro
by nt_jerkface on Tue 27th Jul 2010 19:22 UTC in reply to "RE: Really a good distro"
nt_jerkface
Member since:
2009-08-26

2 months is not the average, that's a gross exaggeration.

I hope your opinion isn't based on that of Caitlyn Martin, the Linux security consultant and transsexual who has a vendetta against CentOS. I remember a while back when her example of a lagged patch was for Firefox 3.

There hasn't been a single case of hosting companies having a mass hack due to using Cent instead of RHEL.

But if you are really that worried then just cough up a hundred bucks a year for Oracle support.

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decency
by ciaran on Tue 27th Jul 2010 19:34 in reply to "RE[2]: Really a good distro"
ciaran Member since:
2006-11-27

Someone's sexuality or physical/medical state has nothing to do with whether they're right or not.

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RE: decency
by nt_jerkface on Tue 27th Jul 2010 19:45 in reply to "decency"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

No but I find humor in a ham-radio expert transsexual being the bane of an all volunteer software project.

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RE[3]: Really a good distro
by gnufreex on Tue 27th Jul 2010 23:26 in reply to "RE[2]: Really a good distro"
gnufreex Member since:
2010-05-06

Dude what are you smoking? Did you even read my post? You attacked me for something that someone else said? Because someone else's vendetta against centos? Really? I didn't read what that Caitlyn Martin said. Have a link?

I don't have a problem with CentOS security, I wouldn't be using it otherwise. I already said that lagging 40-60 days behind RHEL is not a big deal. You would know if you read the post.

If you want a flamewar, find somebody else.

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RE[4]: Really a good distro
by nt_jerkface on Wed 28th Jul 2010 00:04 in reply to "RE[3]: Really a good distro"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

You said:

you have to wait ~2 months for that patch to land in CentOS

and I said that's a gross exaggeration.

Maybe you don't know about Caitlyn Martin but she/he has brought this issue up numerous times without specifying any examples other than a late Firefox patch.

http://ever-increasing-entropy.blogspot.com/2009/08/end-of-centos-n...

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RE[3]: Really a good distro
by ozonehole on Wed 28th Jul 2010 03:21 in reply to "RE[2]: Really a good distro"
ozonehole Member since:
2006-01-07

A couple of comments about Caitlyn Martin...

I went and read the links to the article she wrote about CentOS. Far from just complaining about an out-of-date Firefox, she made made some other very well-reasoned comments. It doesn't sound to me like a vendetta. Among other online posts, she writes for DistroWatch, and her comments are usually well-researched. Most likely, far better researched than yours. However, if you don't agree with what she says, feel free to respond IN AN INTELLIGENT MANNER, rather than character assassination.

Which brings me to this: as for Caitlyn's sexuality and/or medical condition, that is totally out of bounds. You don't know her, and you don't know what she's been through. Would you like us to have a public discussion about your sexual and medical history? What goes round comes round.

Edited 2010-07-28 03:25 UTC

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RE[4]: Really a good distro
by nt_jerkface on Wed 28th Jul 2010 04:42 in reply to "RE[3]: Really a good distro"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

You don't see anything wrong with citing a single delayed desktop browser update as indicative of the overall timeliness of updates from a server centric distro?

How about at least a more relevant update like a vulnerability in openldap?
https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2010-0543.html

Oh look at that issued the next day on CENTOS:
http://lwn.net/Alerts/397020/

Based on the same sample size that Caitlyn used maybe I should conclude that Cent delivers updates within 24 hours of RHEL.

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RE[3]: Really a good distro
by tony on Thu 29th Jul 2010 05:13 in reply to "RE[2]: Really a good distro"
tony Member since:
2005-07-06

2 months is not the average, that's a gross exaggeration.

I hope your opinion isn't based on that of Caitlyn Martin, the Linux security consultant and transsexual who has a vendetta against CentOS. I remember a while back when her example of a lagged patch was for Firefox 3.

There hasn't been a single case of hosting companies having a mass hack due to using Cent instead of RHEL.

But if you are really that worried then just cough up a hundred bucks a year for Oracle support.


Dear Douchebag,

Maybe you're not really a douchebag, I'm sure you have some redeeming qualities, but right now you're acting like a douchebag.

For someone to come out as transexual takes a lot of courage, courage because the world isn't terribly accepting, and often outright hostile to who they are. You see, courage is when you do something even though you're afraid of the potential consequences. I say this because little pricks like you don't usually know what courage is. Instead, cowards like you make cowardly asinine comments like the one you just made.

A lot of transexuals end up in technology, because it's full of geeks, geeks who know what it's like to be different, to be deridded for being who they are. But sometimes cowards like you don't learn the right lesson, which is to be accepting. Instead you cope by finding someone more different than you, and picking on them. You probably thouht we were all like that too, bringing up her sexuality as a tactic to garner more support for your side. But we're not pathetic little cowards like you, so that backfired.

In summation, you're a coward. And I suggest keep your arguments technical, because if you went up against Caitlyn in a battle of class or a battle of guts, you'd lose embarrassingly. You don't have the guts Caitlyn has.

Regards,

Tony Bourke

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RE[4]: Really a good distro
by nt_jerkface on Thu 29th Jul 2010 07:47 in reply to "RE[3]: Really a good distro"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

(claps and wipes tears from eyes)

Yes I find humor in a transexual ham-radio operator who also claims to be a Linux/Unix security expert.

You find satisfaction in your morally indignant condemnation of my provocative comment.

At the end of the day, which response is healthier?

But if you are really offended by me pointing out a transsexual on the internet then by all means file a complaint with your therapist who might be able to explain why you take anonymous internet posts so goddamn seriously.

P.S. Your Oscar winning speech would have had greater effect if you didn't formally address someone named Jerkface as Douchebag. But way to be #9283 to walk into that ladder.

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