Linked by David Adams on Sat 31st Jul 2010 06:05 UTC, submitted by fran
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Microsoft had its annual financial analyst meeting on Thursday, and Steve Ballmer answered questions about what the company's answer to the iPad was going to be, and whether Windows Phone 7 was going to be a part of that product strategy. He said, "We're coming . . . We're coming full guns. The operating system is called Windows." Ballmer and Microsoft so don't get it. I can't believe Steve Ballmer is making me feel sorry for Microsoft.
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Windows 7 on a touch screen.
by leech on Sat 31st Jul 2010 17:24 UTC
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I have an HP Touchsmart tx2z with Windows 7 on it.

While it works, it doesn't truly support multitouch.

Now while some will say "Oh, but yeah it does, you can do.... blah blah." They are wrong.

I will explain. You see, MSPaint, does support multitouch, you can paint with multiple finger points at once, and the tablet supports up to four.

But, the window manager itself does not support it. For example, in the videos of Linux that have the git version of Mutter (that's Metacity with the clutter library) and GTK+ 3.x they have out there, it shows the ability to touch one corner of a window, and another corner of the window and resize by moving either corner in any direction. Very cool, and could be quite handy, especially on a large screen.

Windows 7 does not support this. It also doesn't support multitouch on the rubber band selection box, nor on anything, really. The only multitouch things it does have are mspaint, firefox, IE, and their multitouch test sweet (which basically sucks, because it's choppy even on a laptop with a AMD X2 with 4GB of RAM.) The basic UI isn't really the problem on a touch screen, it's the fact that window management itself isn't supported.

Of course if they release just a single touch tablet, I don't see there being any real problems with just slapping Windows 7 on it. One thing you learn about touch tablets, big buttons are a plus.

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vivainio Member since:

The basic UI isn't really the problem on a touch screen, it's the fact that window management itself isn't supported.

You shouldn't really do any window management on touch screens.

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leech Member since:

Yeah, if you are an Apple user that doesn't know what Multitasking is. Though I do really like how Maemo 5 does it. Basically you have a button in the upper left that shows differently if you have an application open or none. If you don't have any application open, then you can click on it and it'll open up the application launcher. If you do have one open, then it'll do an 'expose' style display, showing a realtime display of all the windows of which programs you have running. You can even click the X to close them from this screeen. Otherwise if you click on the thumbnail, then it changes focus to it.

If it doesn't have a "Window Manager" they can't really call it Windows now can they?

Of course Windows was probably the dumbest name anyhow.

Let's break down the other operating system names at the time Windows was released. Amiga Workbench, Atari ST TOS (funny story about that, some guy was telling a friend of mine how much he loved ST TOS, and my friend said "Yeah, Atari's are pretty cool, a friend (me) has one." and the guy said "What are you talking about, I'm referring to Star Trek, The Original Series..." (By the way Atari ST TOS stood for ST (Sixteen/Thirty-two The Operating System). And Mac OS. At least these all have something that sort of tells you what it is. Microsoft Windows... not so much.

All ranting aside, I'd agree with you, except for the above. Personally I love Linux on my touch screen. It's much more amusing to have wobbly windows and being able to flop them around your screen with your finger than a mouse pointer. Same goes for the cube.

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