Linked by David Adams on Mon 2nd Aug 2010 04:00 UTC, submitted by kallisti5
Sun Solaris, OpenSolaris A recent vague announcement on osol-announce hints that something big is rumbling for OpenSolaris: "A number of the community leaders from the OpenSolaris community have been working quietly together on a new effort called Illumos, and we're just about ready to fully disclose our work to, and invite the general participation of, the general public." They have a website, and they're going to be hosting a conference call on August 3.
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gnufreex
Member since:
2010-05-06

Dude, L4 is microkernel, Genode is something completely different...

Solaris' sunos kernel is monolithic kernel and btw it is pretty mature. Putting up L4 dancing baloney on top and experimenting with it would throw all that maturity down the drain. Not to mention that by the time such integration can even begin to look like it's working, everybody will forget that OpenSolaris even existed. And then there is non-fixable and perpetual licensing issue wrt CDDL.

Only reasonable strategy is to take drivers code and libc from FreeBSD and mesh it with OpenSolaris carcass in order to get something workable as fast is possible. That is only technological and legally compatible solution. It would throw down any binary compatibility with Oracle Solaris, but it could get the project going. But then again, porting sunos kernel to BSD libc is a daunting task.

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Kebabbert Member since:
2007-07-27

Only reasonable strategy is to take drivers code and libc from FreeBSD and mesh it with OpenSolaris carcass in order to get something workable as fast is possible. That is only technological and legally compatible solution. It would throw down any binary compatibility with Oracle Solaris, but it could get the project going. But then again, porting sunos kernel to BSD libc is a daunting task.

I hope it is not too difficult to just compile the current OpenSolaris source code and swap the proprietary encumbered parts to open source. If they succeed with swapping, then in principle it is just a recompilation every time when Oracle checks in OpenSolaris source code. Which would be often, because development of the OpenSolaris source code is very rapid.

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gnufreex Member since:
2010-05-06

I don't think that can be done. Remember Mainframe port of OpenSolaris? Oracle killed it just by firing the guy who was assigned to compile blobs on the mainframe. If Oracle stops compiling those blobs for every release, it is as good as dead. It can't run without libc.

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fithisux Member since:
2006-01-22

Dude, L4 is microkernel, Genode is something completely different...


I know ...

Putting up L4 dancing baloney on top and experimenting with it would throw all that maturity down the drain.


I cannot see your point.

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gnufreex Member since:
2010-05-06

I cannot see your point.

Point is: experimenting with microkernel requires time and people willing to bother with it. They have neither. They need something quick if they want to stay relevant and attract developers. Otherwise why bother at all?

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