Linked by Eugenia Loli on Tue 11th Oct 2005 17:36 UTC
Linux As smartphone prices decline, they have become more popular every day. Symbian, PalmOS, Windows Mobile and Linux seem to be the big names in this high-end market of phones, all showcasing PDA-like features, native toolkits and fast processors. Today we are looking at one of the most popular Linux smartphones (especially in Asia), the Motorola E680i, which was released around May 2005 and was graciously provided by Geeks.com for this article.
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RE[3]: Maybe I'm retarded...but..
by ormandj on Tue 11th Oct 2005 21:00 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Maybe I'm retarded...but.."
ormandj
Member since:
2005-10-09

Over myself? Yes, I agree you did a good job reviewing the phone, hence I used your review as the only source of information concerning the phone. If I thought your review was poor, I would not have done so. No need for petty insults.

I simply didn't feel your review backed up the 7/10 rating. The review seemed more like a 2/10. Now maybe the phone has some great qualities you left out (of course who will write a 100 page review), but your review really doesn't convey that. It's a whole lot of negative, with a little bit a positive, and a fairly positive rating.

I just felt you should be a little more detailed in why the phone is *good* if you felt it deserved a 7/10 rating. I'm not arguing about the rating of the phone, I've never used one, I'm sure 7/10 is accurate. I just felt the review didn't display the phone in a 7/10 light. Maybe you can get over yourself now? I'm not arguing with your rating, per say. ;)

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Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

>I just felt you should be a little more detailed in why
>the phone is *good* if you felt it deserved a 7/10 rating.

Because ALL the rest of the applications and hardware included WORK as expected. The only problems I found on the phone are the ones I mentioned. But that doesn't mean that Java crashes, or the email app crashes, or the email app fails to get my email, or that Real doesn't play my .rm files, or that GPRS disconnects out of the blue, or that the phone eats my SD filesystem or that Bluetooth doesn't want to pair with my PC. NONE of that happens!

There are about 1000 things in this phone that one could mention (but it's impossible to). 975 of them WORK. And so the 7/10 is a fair rating, given the fact that some of the problems are eye-popping and makes you wonder why Motorola didn't fix them. But that doesn't mean that the phone sucks and it's unusable, 'cause it doesn't.

And speaking of fair ratings, you said that you found my review to be a 'good job', you just disagreed with my final rating. If I am so bad on ratings, I guess your 1/10 that you rated my story is even worse then.

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fretinator Member since:
2005-07-06

And speaking of fair ratings, you said that you found my review to be a 'good job', you just disagreed with my final rating. If I am so bad on ratings, I guess your 1/10 that you rated my story is even worse then.

touché !!

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ormandj Member since:
2005-10-09

Because regardless of how I felt the review was, I found it in no way signified a 7/10, let alone 5/10, or even 3/10. Maybe if you had included the ^^^ information, then sure, a 7/10 would be understandable. Thanks for clearing up your feelings about the phone for those of us who can't read minds/don't like making assumptions that "everything else must be good" simply because it wasn't mentioned as bad. I'll leave this thread alone now, the other readers can get the information out of it needed, and continuing the thread will only lead to the flamewars I'm accustomed to seeing. Really, the attitude isn't necessary, I'm sorry I didn't make assumptions concerning your thoughts, and I'm sorry for being honest in my opinions. It's a good review, it could just do with your previous post tacked on, to clarify the 7/10 rating. Otherwise people will be left thinking it's full of issues, and has very little good going for it.

I'll leave you with some examples of phones that were highly rated. Notice the good/bad ratio in them. There is a reason for that, regardless of what you (the reviewer) might think about the phone, if you don't clarify things, none of your readers will understand.

http://www.mobileburn.com/review.jsp?Id=1393&source=BROWSER
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/samsung-d600-en.shtml

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ormandj Member since:
2005-10-09

To clarify myself:
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And speaking of fair ratings, you said that you found my review to be a 'good job', you just disagreed with my final rating. If I am so bad on ratings, I guess your 1/10 that you rated my story is even worse then.
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A good review that completely does NOT support the given rating is a bad story. A good review which backs up the given rating is a good story. In this care, I felt it 100% absolutely did NOT support the rating you gave it. After your previous posts, I completely agree it deserves the 7/10 rating. I hope this makes it clearer to you.

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