Linked by David Adams on Mon 2nd Aug 2010 04:00 UTC, submitted by kallisti5
Sun Solaris, OpenSolaris A recent vague announcement on osol-announce hints that something big is rumbling for OpenSolaris: "A number of the community leaders from the OpenSolaris community have been working quietly together on a new effort called Illumos, and we're just about ready to fully disclose our work to, and invite the general participation of, the general public." They have a website, and they're going to be hosting a conference call on August 3.
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Zombie Solaris
by tony on Mon 2nd Aug 2010 18:20 UTC
tony
Member since:
2005-07-06

Sadly, I think OpenSolaris is ZombieSolaris. It's dead, but continues to walk around.

If Sun/Oracle abandons OpenSolaris (which it looks like they may have already done defacto), there's not enough independent kernel developers to do anything but keep the OpenSolaris frozen in time. And an OS frozen in time isn't much of an OS with a future.

I really liked Solaris, I cut my teeth on Solaris. But I think OpenSolaris is a zombie, and I think Solaris is pretty marginalized right now to a few specific cases (and I think Oracle is fine with that).

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RE: Zombie Solaris
by Dubhthach on Mon 2nd Aug 2010 19:08 in reply to "Zombie Solaris"
Dubhthach Member since:
2006-01-12

There is a difference between OpenSolaris the project and the "Opensolaris Distro" (what used to be called Project Indiana). There was a huge amount of controversy in the community when the "Indiana distro" was rebranded as OpenSolaris. As it caused confusion. The dev repo is currently stuck at b134 which was suppose to be used for "OpenSolaris 2010.03" distro. However they have continued to do drops of Opensolaris codebase. For example you can download the code for B145 and compile it yourself. The project is still running at full steam internally from what I can see. Given that it will produce Nevada (Solaris 11) they just don't seem to be releasing pre-compiled code for the Indiana distro.

http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/b145/

At the moment it looks like Oracle are pursing a Redhat like strategy. They make the code available but don't release a free binary distro. Instead you will end up paying for Solaris 11 like you have to do for RHEL. What we need is a Centos of the Solaris ecosystem. Illumos appears to fit this niche.

As you can see looking at the build flagdays there is alot going on when it comes to code commits.
http://static.opensolaris.org/on/flagdays/146-150.html

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RE[2]: Zombie Solaris
by vivainio on Tue 3rd Aug 2010 07:06 in reply to "RE: Zombie Solaris"
vivainio Member since:
2008-12-26

What we need is a Centos of the Solaris ecosystem. Illumos appears to fit this niche.


Since nexenta is involved, it might be that they just grab the kernel and use Linux userspace. Which is the only way it'll make any sense.

Be it as it may, people on Solaris / OpenSolaris have probably been browsing the red hat website since Oracle purchase.

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RE[2]: Zombie Solaris
by gnufreex on Tue 3rd Aug 2010 12:23 in reply to "RE: Zombie Solaris"
gnufreex Member since:
2010-05-06


At the moment it looks like Oracle are pursing a Redhat like strategy. They make the code available but don't release a free binary distro. Instead you will end up paying for Solaris 11 like you have to do for RHEL. What we need is a Centos of the Solaris ecosystem. Illumos appears to fit this niche.

Illumos can't be nothing like CentOS becasue Solaris 10 is closed soruce. RHEL is open source. CentOS is a carbon copy of RHEL, just without trademarks.

You just can't do that with Solaris. Illumos is new name for OpenSolaris, because Oracle owns trademark. But it is not just trademark what it's about, because there are some big binary-only parts in opensolaris codebase, and they need to replace that if they want to make completely open source distro.

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RE: Zombie Solaris
by Tuishimi on Mon 2nd Aug 2010 19:19 in reply to "Zombie Solaris"
Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

Hmmm... While I hope you are wrong I will say this:

Zombie would be a MUCH cooler project name than Illumos.

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