Linked by David Adams on Mon 2nd Aug 2010 04:00 UTC, submitted by kallisti5
Sun Solaris, OpenSolaris A recent vague announcement on osol-announce hints that something big is rumbling for OpenSolaris: "A number of the community leaders from the OpenSolaris community have been working quietly together on a new effort called Illumos, and we're just about ready to fully disclose our work to, and invite the general participation of, the general public." They have a website, and they're going to be hosting a conference call on August 3.
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RE: Comment by kaiwai
by Dubhthach on Mon 2nd Aug 2010 18:59 UTC in reply to "Comment by kaiwai"
Dubhthach
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2006-01-12

Looks like Garrett is working on it. I wouldn't be surprised if they will pull in stuff like this via *BSD.
http://hg.illumos.org/illumos/rev/c8da1d642945

As for the project. If Garrett is the lead then I think it should be very interesting. He is definitely one of the main kernel hackers doing code commits to OpenSolaris over the last 2-3years. He designed and implemented "Boomer" which is the new sound system which exposes an OSSv4 API. He's also done alot of driver work.

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RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Tue 3rd Aug 2010 08:37 in reply to "RE: Comment by kaiwai"
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2005-07-06

Looks like Garrett is working on it. I wouldn't be surprised if they will pull in stuff like this via *BSD.
http://hg.illumos.org/illumos/rev/c8da1d642945

As for the project. If Garrett is the lead then I think it should be very interesting. He is definitely one of the main kernel hackers doing code commits to OpenSolaris over the last 2-3years. He designed and implemented "Boomer" which is the new sound system which exposes an OSSv4 API. He's also done alot of driver work.


There was a move to port the BSD implementation over to OpenSolaris:

http://i18n-freedom.blogspot.com/

But it pretty much died around a year ago with no code every moving from simply some proof of concepts into reality. Garrett has done a heck of a lot of work so far - hopefully we'll see more people jump on the bandwagon and maybe provide a donation link as well because I know I'll be more than happy to donate $500 once I get working full time (once I graduate university).

I wonder whether there will be a move to get behind LLVM as the default compiler for illumos given how much backing LLVM is getting especially from Apple - although from what I understand its lacking SPARC support. With that being said I'd say the majority of illumos users will end up being x86 users anyway.

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RE[3]: Comment by kaiwai
by fithisux on Tue 3rd Aug 2010 18:09 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai"
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2006-01-22

The LLVM sounds interesting but we should wait for some more releases until LLDB is ready. I wish OSOL could reuse the publicly released Darwin bits. However to my understanding APSL forbids it.

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RE[3]: Comment by kaiwai
by Dubhthach on Tue 3rd Aug 2010 22:29 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai"
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2006-01-12


I wonder whether there will be a move to get behind LLVM as the default compiler for illumos given how much backing LLVM is getting especially from Apple - although from what I understand its lacking SPARC support. With that being said I'd say the majority of illumos users will end up being x86 users anyway.


Going by the recording of the meeting. It would seem they would ideally like to be toolchain neutral. At the moment they basically have to depend on SunStudio which though free is a proprietary compiler suite. Garrett basically says he sees this dependence as a bug. I think the way LLVM/Clang are going especially with it's inclusion in FreeBSD base system that there will no doubt be work done bringing it over at some stage.

Recording of call:
http://www.illumos.org/attachments/download/4/illumos_recording.mp3
Presentation pdf:
http://www.illumos.org/attachments/download/3/illumos.pdf

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