Linked by David Adams on Tue 3rd Aug 2010 16:05 UTC, submitted by sjvn
Linux As we mentioned in a previous article, Red Hat advocate Greg DeKoenigsberg claimed that due to the much larger amount of code it's contributed, Red Hat is a better open source citizen than Canonical, adding, "Canonical is a marketing organization masquerading as an engineering organization." A Computerworld blog retorts that that's no insult; and that marketing Linux could be just as important to the cause as contributing code. Updated
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Lunitik
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2005-08-07

It is simply a pointless fight.

The desktop form factor will be obsolete long before Canonical ever gain any sort of ground there.

That is the mistake Canonical has made: They're fighting a giant on their ground. That isn't have you win any battle, the only way to beat Microsoft is to make them fight in a new arena.

Red Hat figured this out a long time ago, that is why they concentrate on corporate needs. Canonical is trying to create a cloud story, but again, its a losing battle because Red Hat and others have a better story. Ubuntu can't offer the middleware or management functionalities like Red Hat can, or the security story for those customers.

Google figured this out, that is why they're getting a strangle hold on the smartphone sector. Canonical thinks they can beat Android/ChromeOS in this segment, but they have generated absolutely zero OEM support for their offering. They can't even begin to compete with the Intel/Nokia offering, MeeGo.

These are all very similar to the failures behind Launchpad. Despite the number of projects hosted there, no reputable project actually uses it. Linux Foundation members have all flocked around the openSUSE Build Service and git(orius) combination. Instead of helping out the rest of the community though, they insist on being stubborn.

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Richard Dale Member since:
2005-07-22

It is simply a pointless fight.

The desktop form factor will be obsolete long before Canonical ever gain any sort of ground there.

That is the mistake Canonical has made: They're fighting a giant on their ground. That isn't have you win any battle, the only way to beat Microsoft is to make them fight in a new arena.

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Google figured this out, that is why they're getting a strangle hold on the smartphone sector. Canonical thinks they can beat Android/ChromeOS in this segment, but they have generated absolutely zero OEM support for their offering. They can't even begin to compete with the Intel/Nokia offering, MeeGo.


Canonical seem to be doing quite well with legacy desktop substitutes with Ubuntu. But wouldn't be Canonical be more successful if they based their non-desktop offerings on MeeGo or KDE Plasma, which are designed to be customized for different form factors. Instead they customize Gnome, where the problem seems to be if you are not upstream contributing to the desktop UI, then you are a not a first class player.

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Lunitik Member since:
2005-08-07

Depends what you define as "doing well". They still count there users in the 50 million region at the high end, and 20 million at the low end. That might sound good, but think about how many Apple and Microsoft have within this form factor and it becomes measly.

They have next to no OEM momentum at all, which means there simply isn't enough demand. Most of their users aren't buying machines with Ubuntu pre-installed, they're downloading Ubuntu for free or ordering CD's at a cost to Canonical. No matter how you slice it, Ubuntu isn't generating funds currently, so its hard to say it is "doing well".

Canonical continuously attempts to enter markets with a less than convincing story for justification to customers. Ubuntu Netbook Edition is yet another example of this.

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