Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 10th Aug 2010 22:00 UTC, submitted by JRepin
KDE KDE today celebrates its semi-annual release event, releasing new versions of the Plasma Desktop and Netbook workspaces, the KDE Development Platform and a large number of applications available in their 4.5.0 versions. In this release, the KDE team focused on stability and completeness of the desktop experience.
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Basic layout ugliness.
by Timmmm on Tue 10th Aug 2010 23:20 UTC
Timmmm
Member since:
2006-07-25

They *still* haven't fixed the layout ugliness. Check out this notification:

http://kde.org/announcements/4.5/screenshots/plasma-notification.pn...

It's pretty good, but there are obvious flaws, such as the title being exactly the same font as the message, and the totally random placement of the tick.

Gnome still has a much cleaner look.

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RE: Basic layout ugliness.
by nunopinheiro on Tue 10th Aug 2010 23:26 in reply to "Basic layout ugliness."
nunopinheiro Member since:
2007-10-07

And that's the reason we keep on working at it, and some times we do it better than any one else, some times we don't and we need to keep at it, I'm sure we will never manage to get it perfect, I doubt such a thing is real.. Gnome is not perfect, Mac Osx is not perfect win7 sure is not perfect, the fun for us is to try to achieve it, in the hope that its as fun to you to use it ;)

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v RE[2]: Basic layout ugliness.
by tyrione on Wed 11th Aug 2010 01:45 in reply to "RE: Basic layout ugliness."
RE: Basic layout ugliness.
by Richard Dale on Tue 10th Aug 2010 23:31 in reply to "Basic layout ugliness."
Richard Dale Member since:
2005-07-22

Gnome still has a much cleaner look.


I suppose the question to ask these days is 'Which Gnome?' ;)

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RE: Basic layout ugliness.
by cmost on Wed 11th Aug 2010 00:28 in reply to "Basic layout ugliness."
cmost Member since:
2006-07-16

Gnome still has a much cleaner look.


Please lets not let this discussion degenerate into yet another KDE vs. Gnome (or Xfce, or LXDE, what have you) debate. I, personally, think KDE 4.5 looks fantastic; in fact, I switched back to KDE after using Gnome for a few years when KDE finally stabilized at 4.3. KDE keeps getting better. While individual opinions on the beauty or ugliness of ANY desktop will always differ, thanks to the open source of these desktops and the plethora of choices we users have of desktops in general, we can have it exactly our way.

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RE: Basic layout ugliness.
by siride on Wed 11th Aug 2010 01:19 in reply to "Basic layout ugliness."
siride Member since:
2006-01-02

Use a different theme.

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RE: Basic layout ugliness.
by lemur2 on Wed 11th Aug 2010 02:00 in reply to "Basic layout ugliness."
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Gnome still has a much cleaner look.


That is debatable, but so too is the point that I would make in reply, that being that the KDE SC (which is more than just the desktop software itself) is a far more functional and powerful desktop software collection than is GNOME.

http://kde.org/applications/system/
http://kde.org/applications/education/
http://kde.org/applications/graphics/
http://kde.org/applications/internet/
http://kde.org/applications/multimedia/
http://kde.org/applications/utilities/
http://kde.org/applications/office/
http://kde.org/applications/development/

Even better is the fact that one can install the entire software collection, in all its power, without any dependency on Mono at all.

Your mileage may vary.

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RE: Basic layout ugliness.
by panzi on Wed 11th Aug 2010 08:06 in reply to "Basic layout ugliness."
panzi Member since:
2006-01-22

What I hate on the notifications is their jerkiness, that they can overflow the screen height and that they hide even when you hover them because you want to click them. It happens often that I want to click a notification and I'm fast enough to actually hover them but not fast enough to click the button before they hide so I click whatever window is under the notification. Annoying! IMHO they should not move in/out but just fade in/out! I don't know if that got better in 4.5, though.

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RE[2]: Basic layout ugliness.
by mart on Wed 11th Aug 2010 08:36 in reply to "RE: Basic layout ugliness."
mart Member since:
2005-11-17

in 4.5 it works in a completely different way.
what you see is just a little preview that will never ever fill the screen and when the mouse goes over it, it stops the auto hide countdown

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RE: Basic layout ugliness.
by Fettarme H-Milch on Wed 11th Aug 2010 12:46 in reply to "Basic layout ugliness."
Fettarme H-Milch Member since:
2010-02-16

They *still* haven't fixed the layout ugliness. Check out this notification (...)

Gnome still has a much cleaner look.

Luckily notifications of Plasma and GNOME are all based on the same FreeDesktop.org standard. Don't like one notification system? Just use another. You can even use gnome-notification-deamon under Plasma if you prefer that one. The Gwenview author also wrote an alternative Growl-inspired notification system called Colibri: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Colibri?content=117147

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RE: Basic layout ugliness.
by mgl.branco on Thu 12th Aug 2010 12:09 in reply to "Basic layout ugliness."
mgl.branco Member since:
2009-07-22

Gnome still has a much cleaner look.

...but less functionality. And this is not a criticism. Gnome focus on delivering a clean UI and KDE on functionality. Obviously, providing many options makes the DE to look much clutter.

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RE: Basic layout ugliness.
by Luminair on Thu 12th Aug 2010 15:32 in reply to "Basic layout ugliness."
Luminair Member since:
2007-03-30

that is called programmer art

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