Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 11th Aug 2010 19:14 UTC, submitted by Cytor
Sun Solaris, OpenSolaris Due to me not working for OSNews these past eight weeks, I've been a bit out of the loop, as I didn't really follow technology news. I did notice that a lot is going on in OpenSolaris land, and today, Oracle has outlined what it has planned for Solaris 11 - and according to some, the fears about OpenSolaris' future were justified.
Thread beginning with comment 436356
To view parent comment, click here.
To read all comments associated with this story, please click here.
RE[3]: Is it bad? Not really.
by phoenix on Thu 12th Aug 2010 05:45 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Is it bad? Not really."
phoenix
Member since:
2005-07-11

"Linux really doen't have anything that matches OpenSolaris ZFS in ease of use and features.


Nothing that is production ready. Wait a year and BTRFS will be here. If you are looking to the future with your data storage needs, BTRFS is a really good reason to *not* go to ZFS, unless you are already running Solaris everywhere.
"

Btrfs is at least 5 years off from being a replacement for ZFS as it stands today. Btrfs is not anywhere near the same league as ZFS right now. It's absolutely hilarious when people try to suggest "some future version of" Btrfs as a viable alternative for ZFS of today.

Reply Parent Score: 5

Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Technology always moves faster than you think. In planning adoption for a storage technology, you'd have to be completely naive to not evaluate the future of the product you are going to use for your valuable data. There is a good reason why people dropped plans for supporting Reiser 4. If you really look at the design of the two File Systems, its hard not to be bullish on BTRFS. Everyone who is already on Linux will also have ZFS like capabilities on all their storage devices. That's huge.

As for timing I guessed a year. Maybe two, depending on your intended use. If Ubuntu makes it their default file system, as suggested, You'll get a lot of bug fixes pretty quickly. Just hope they submit those back to the mainline ;)

Reply Parent Score: 3

RE[5]: Is it bad? Not really.
by phoenix on Thu 12th Aug 2010 15:23 in reply to "RE[4]: Is it bad? Not really."
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

Until it gets support for RAID levels above 1, it'll be hard to even consider it for a lot of storage applications. The patches for this have been "just around the corner" for over a year now.

Until it gets support for deduplication, it'll be hard to consider it for a lot of storage applications. There aren't even any plans for adding this at this time.

Until it gets support for proper volume management (or better integration with LVM/md) it won't be a good fit for use in storage systems with 10/20/30/hundreds of disks.

Actually, until Linux gets a storage stack comparable to ZFS in OSol/FreeBSD or GEOM in FreeBSD, it's not a good fit for many storage applications.

Maybe for desktops with 1-4 drives, or for laptops with 1-2 drives, or for small servers with 1-4 drives, Btrfs may be useful (nothing but RAID10). But for large storage servers with 24+ drive bays, or for storage arrays that can handle multiple 48-bay enclosures, it's just nowhere near ready.

Anyone who believes otherwise is seriously deluding themselves.

Reply Parent Score: 4

RE[5]: Is it bad? Not really.
by phoenix on Thu 12th Aug 2010 15:34 in reply to "RE[4]: Is it bad? Not really."
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

The other issue to consider is that there is a large industry around ZFS-based storage solutions, and absolutely 0 companies using Btrfs as the basis for a storage solution. Someone looking for a turnkey solution, for a simple "plug it in and go" box, it's easy to end up with a box that uses ZFS internally (Nexenta, GreenBytes, even FreeNAS, for example). There's nothing like that available for Btrfs.

Reply Parent Score: 2

RE[4]: Is it bad? Not really.
by segedunum on Fri 13th Aug 2010 17:19 in reply to "RE[3]: Is it bad? Not really."
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Btrfs is at least 5 years off from being a replacement for ZFS as it stands today. Btrfs is not anywhere near the same league as ZFS right now.

I know. Btrfs might actually have a fighting chance of running on a NAS box.

Reply Parent Score: 2