Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 10th Aug 2010 22:00 UTC, submitted by JRepin
KDE KDE today celebrates its semi-annual release event, releasing new versions of the Plasma Desktop and Netbook workspaces, the KDE Development Platform and a large number of applications available in their 4.5.0 versions. In this release, the KDE team focused on stability and completeness of the desktop experience.
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RE[12]: Comment by mtzmtulivu
by Beket_ on Thu 12th Aug 2010 19:59 UTC in reply to "RE[11]: Comment by mtzmtulivu"
Beket_
Member since:
2009-07-10

ok , they tested it alot but they left the bugs -> ok for .0.

or they are slaves to you and must ask for your authorization on their version schemes.
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Dude, having bugs and all is fine for a major release. Even for the first subsequent releases of the 4.x series. This isn't what we argue about.

The most irritating is that there are certain kde developers and users who want to convince world that kde 4.0 was a great release. And that are we making things up, just because we are haters. Well, we aren't.

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RE[13]: Comment by mtzmtulivu
by Yagami on Thu 12th Aug 2010 23:56 in reply to "RE[12]: Comment by mtzmtulivu"
Yagami Member since:
2006-07-15

no no no ;)

in terms of development, kde 4.0 was a great release.

in terms of features and usuability wise, not even close.

it was a great release, for its intended purpose.

never , ever , ever was it intended to be a full, ready, desktop replacement.

my problem is people saying that every .0 release is the stable full finished product. and in that sense ... i ask ... in what world ? not this one !

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RE[13]: Comment by mtzmtulivu
by smitty on Fri 13th Aug 2010 00:46 in reply to "RE[12]: Comment by mtzmtulivu"
smitty Member since:
2005-10-13

The most irritating is that there are certain kde developers and users who want to convince world that kde 4.0 was a great release. And that are we making things up, just because we are haters. Well, we aren't.

No one thinks that 4.0 was a great release for users, or that it was very usable or should have been used by people.

The argument is that 4.0 was never supposed to be any of those things, so by looking at what it was supposed to do (kick start 4.x development, allow for all the cool stuff that is happening now) it was a success.

I don't think this is a very hard concept to grasp, but some people seem to have this overwhelming need to hear the developers prostrate themselves and beg forgiveness.

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RE[13]: Comment by mtzmtulivu
by sorpigal on Fri 13th Aug 2010 10:56 in reply to "RE[12]: Comment by mtzmtulivu"
sorpigal Member since:
2005-11-02

The most irritating is that there are certain kde developers and users who want to convince world that kde 4.0 was a great release. And that are we making things up, just because we are haters. Well, we aren't.

That's not what we're discussing here. I'm not trying to say 4.0 was a quality release, because it wasn't. KDE4 didn't become remotely stable enough until 4.3, and I still won't use it as my primary environment (though I am going to give the new release another try; I am a sucker for new software).

What Thom has been saying is "If it's not finished, don't apply the magic, sacred .0 version number" -- which radically misses the point of a version number, ascribing to it some kind of significance that it does not and should not have.

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