Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 13th Aug 2010 01:32 UTC, submitted by JeremyPoulson
Legal I'm supposed to be asleep right now, but this news kind of hit me like a ton of bricks: Oracle is suing Google over its Android mobile operating system, claiming it infringes on its patented Java technology. Not a good week to be Google, is it?
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Oracle - New Villain?
by TusharG on Fri 13th Aug 2010 02:06 UTC
TusharG
Member since:
2005-07-06

Oracle is slowly going in my bad books. First they acquired SUN and there are lot of good OSS projects of whos future is not secure because they are now under oracle.
Android is the first platform that managed to really challange iOS. Going by this rule we shouldnt be surprise if Nokia & Intel also gets suied in case if they have used java in Meego!

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by Mapou on Fri 13th Aug 2010 02:52 in reply to "Oracle - New Villain?"
RE[2]: Oracle - New Villain?
by bazerka on Fri 13th Aug 2010 04:25 in reply to "RE: Oracle - New Villain?"
bazerka Member since:
2006-07-23

Sun originally invented Unix


Um, no. UNIX was created in 1969 by AT&T. Sun Microsystems didn't come into existence until 1982. Perhaps you're getting confused by the fact that one of Sun's founders, Bill Nealy, was a primary developer of BSD Unix *prior* to founding Sun?

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RE[2]: Oracle - New Villain?
by jibadeeha on Fri 13th Aug 2010 05:49 in reply to "RE: Oracle - New Villain?"
jibadeeha Member since:
2009-08-10

Yep. Sun originally invented Unix.


What are they teaching kids in school these days?

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RE: Oracle - New Villain?
by chekr on Fri 13th Aug 2010 02:59 in reply to "Oracle - New Villain?"
chekr Member since:
2005-11-05

Going by this rule we shouldnt be surprise if Nokia & Intel also gets suied in case if they have used java in Meego!


thankfully java is not a part of meego

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RE: Oracle - New Villain?
by lfeagan on Fri 13th Aug 2010 03:09 in reply to "Oracle - New Villain?"
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2006-04-01

IBM is a paying Java licensee. Nokia uses IBM's J9 implementation as do many other mobile device manufacturers/developers.

Here is a list of some of the Java licensees:

http://java.sun.com/javase/licensees.jsp

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RE[2]: Oracle - New Villain?
by ahmetaa on Fri 13th Aug 2010 05:29 in reply to "RE: Oracle - New Villain?"
ahmetaa Member since:
2005-07-06

Android does not need that license. Google does not say, or want to say "this application is compatible with Java SE". Neither they claim using JME. They only mention Java the language, which does not require a license. The libraries comes partly from Apache Harmony project but Google don't claim to have a compatible JDK library either.

Edited 2010-08-13 05:30 UTC

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RE: Oracle - New Villain?
by vivainio on Fri 13th Aug 2010 04:32 in reply to "Oracle - New Villain?"
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2008-12-26

Android is the first platform that managed to really challange iOS. Going by this rule we shouldnt be surprise if Nokia & Intel also gets suied in case if they have used java in Meego!

What "rule"? Dalvik is the problem, not using Java alone (MeeGo could add e.g. OpenJDK or IBM JDK safely). I guess forcing Google to switch to normal JVM is what Oracle wants; that's the way they can be partial to the growing high end (non-J2ME) smartphone market.

Dear Motorola,

Time to contact someone at Nokia/Intel/Linux Foundation? I'm sure a demo of MeeGo running on an upcoming device can be arranged at your earliest convenience ;-).

Edited 2010-08-13 04:33 UTC

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RE[2]: Oracle - New Villain?
by ahmetaa on Fri 13th Aug 2010 05:32 in reply to "RE: Oracle - New Villain?"
ahmetaa Member since:
2005-07-06

Comment Reposted.

Edited 2010-08-13 05:34 UTC

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RE[2]: Oracle - New Villain?
by ahmetaa on Fri 13th Aug 2010 05:33 in reply to "RE: Oracle - New Villain?"
ahmetaa Member since:
2005-07-06

And how will using their own JRE (or using an available one apart from Oracles JRE) will make Google pay licenses to Oracle? show me the proof.

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RE: Oracle - New Villain?
by bitwelder on Fri 13th Aug 2010 06:49 in reply to "Oracle - New Villain?"
bitwelder Member since:
2010-04-27

Oracle to Google: "I see you guys are baking a nice pie. I'm King Larry and you ought to keep a slice of it for me. I love those pies". :-)

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RE: Oracle - New Villain?
by _txf_ on Fri 13th Aug 2010 14:55 in reply to "Oracle - New Villain?"
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

Slowly going into your bad books? Ever since I can remember Oracle has been evil.

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RE: Oracle - New Villain?
by MollyC on Sat 14th Aug 2010 01:19 in reply to "Oracle - New Villain?"
MollyC Member since:
2006-07-04

Oracle as a villain is nothing new.
Hell, Larry Ellison even LOOKS like Satan! lol

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