Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 13th Aug 2010 22:58 UTC, submitted by Alex Forster
Legal We're far from done with the Oracle v. Google lawsuit. The search giant has responded to the lawsuit, and Miguel De Icaza has provided a very interesting insight into the case. His report has been confirmed by James Gosling, known as the father of Java who left Sun right after the merger. Icaza speculates that the potential to monetise on Java by suing Google was pitched by Jonathan Schwartz during Sun's sales talks with Oracle. Oh boy.
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RE[4]: People forget
by nt_jerkface on Sat 14th Aug 2010 18:45 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: People forget"
nt_jerkface
Member since:
2009-08-26

How many times does this have to be posted?

What is Android?
Android is a software stack for mobile devices that includes an operating system, middleware and key applications. The Android SDK provides the tools and APIs necessary to begin developing applications on the Android platform using the Java programming language.

http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html

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RE[5]: People forget
by dylansmrjones on Sat 14th Aug 2010 19:29 in reply to "RE[4]: People forget"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Using the java programming language does not equal being a Java environment, just like using C# does not imply using Microsoft.Net.

Programming Language != Programming Environment.

How often does it need to be stated before you grasp it!?

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RE[6]: People forget
by seanpk on Sat 14th Aug 2010 20:05 in reply to "RE[5]: People forget"
seanpk Member since:
2009-11-17

more to the point - I don't think this is about the *programming* environment, but the *runtime* environment

it makes Oracle's case better that it is the Java programming language that is used to generate code for the VM runtime environment ... at least as far as it goes for generating FUD
it also opens the door for the copyright (they may claim the interfaces to the Java classes are their copyright, for example) and trademark (Java is their trademark) aspects of the lawsuit

as far as the patents go though, it could easily be Microsoft that is being sued for their .NET runtime design and/or implementation (I think they have cross-licensing agreements though)

IANAL, and even if I were, I don't know all the details of Oracle's filing, but I suspect the meatiest part of the lawsuit is wrt the patents. The copyright and trademark parts are just bonus FUD and if they win them all the better.

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RE[6]: People forget
by nt_jerkface on Sat 14th Aug 2010 23:07 in reply to "RE[5]: People forget"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

Using the java programming language does not equal being a Java environment, just like using C# does not imply using Microsoft.Net.


You said Java, not Java environment.

Stating that they don't use Java gives the impression that they have nothing to do with it.

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