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Frames existed before IE4
Thanks for the correction. IE4 did add a lot of stuff, I probably thought Frames were new in IE4 because of the scripting capability where I first used them. I wonder if IE3 had iframes?
That's only true if you learned web development in the early 00s.
I was really fortunate and started in 2000/1, when you could just about ignore that Netscape existed and get away with it unscathed.
Thanks for the correction. IE4 did add a lot of stuff, I probably thought Frames were new in IE4 because of the scripting capability where I first used them. I wonder if IE3 had iframes?
IIRC iframes came a little latter and was original another Internet Explorer specific tab.
I can't recall exactly what release first saw iframes, but it was either IE4 or IE5
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Frames existed before IE4. I remember using frames on both IE3 and Netscape Navigator 3 (maybe before then, but I can't recall that far back). In fact, I remember being wound up at IE4 upon release as it broke all of my frames!
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Yes, frames were around before IE4, but the standard changed (or the implimentation was only then standardised by w3c) with HTML4 (which was IE4 supported):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Framing_(World_Wide_Web)#History
In a way, we have benefited from the IE monopoly in one way. I've learnt web development during a time where it was easier than it is now. There was only one browser to test in, and the browser didn't change for over five years, meaning we all had lots of time to focus on polishing our skills, than keeping up with a constantly moving platform. It must be very hard getting into web design right now because it's an absolutely confusing array of incompleteness.
That's only true if you learned web development in the early 00s.
If you was building sites before then, then it was a complete nightmare. Browsers were not only incompatible with each other, they were incompatible with different versions of themselves!
I believe that HTML5 is the next C++. It's messy, clunky, you can shoot yourself in the foot easily with it, but it's the common language by which most apps get written.
Interesting analogy. Thanks for sharing
Edited 2010-08-16 14:50 UTC