Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 16th Aug 2010 18:49 UTC
Internet & Networking Not too long ago Adobe started a "We love Apple" campaign, as a response to Apple's continuous negative remarks about the company. With Flash 10.1 slowly but surely appearing on more and more mobile devices, it seems like the company just doesn't care about it any more. Adobe's CEO Shantanu Narayen has said they've "moved on".
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F* Apple, AND Adobe!
by crhylove on Mon 16th Aug 2010 20:01 UTC
crhylove
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2010-04-10

All these proprietary formats and platforms will kneel before Android. It's inevitable. And with google behind VP8, you can kiss any relevance Adobe ever had goodbye.

I for one cannot WAIT for a truly open, truly anonymous, and truly standards compliant web. It's going to happen, and when it does, our species will evolve and improve much more quickly!

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RE: F* Apple, AND Adobe!
by WorknMan on Mon 16th Aug 2010 20:22 in reply to "F* Apple, AND Adobe!"
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2005-11-13

All these proprietary formats and platforms will kneel before Android. It's inevitable. And with google behind VP8, you can kiss any relevance Adobe ever had goodbye.


I would agree with you, except for the fact that flash is on Android now, so I'm REALLY hoping it doesn't take off on that platform. Flash is like telemarketing - it just needs to go away entirely.

I really wished Google would've taken an anti-flash stance like Apple did. IMHO, that's one thing that Apple did right, despite whatever ulterior motives they might or might not have had.

Note: I'm not an idealist; I really don't care if flash is 'open' or not. What I do care about though are the myriad of security holes, and the hijacking of my right mouse button.

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RE[2]: F* Apple, AND Adobe!
by ephracis on Mon 16th Aug 2010 23:14 in reply to "RE: F* Apple, AND Adobe!"
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2007-09-23

[...] and the hijacking of my right mouse button.

This. And the hijacking of my scroll!

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RE: F* Apple, AND Adobe!
by nt_jerkface on Mon 16th Aug 2010 20:37 in reply to "F* Apple, AND Adobe!"
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2009-08-26

All these proprietary formats and platforms will kneel before Android.


An Android tablet would actually appeal to me over the ipad simply for having Flash. Reading news sites on a tablet without Flash would annoy the hell out of me.


I for one cannot WAIT for a truly open, truly anonymous, and truly standards compliant web. It's going to happen, and when it does, our species will evolve and improve much more quickly!


Thanks for the laugh. People want to get on the internet and watch Hollywood crap as quickly as possible and could care less about how it works.

I also see no evidence that humans are evolving into some higher state of consciousness. The smartest people I know have the fewest children and this seems to be a constant throughout the US.

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RE[2]: F* Apple, AND Adobe!
by Kivada on Tue 17th Aug 2010 08:45 in reply to "RE: F* Apple, AND Adobe!"
Kivada Member since:
2010-07-07

And what crapliy made news sites are you using that require flash? 99% of news can be found elsewhere easily on sites that don't require flash.

I hate flash for the same reason I hate jscript, it's a slow, buggy, security hole laden turd.

Neither of which are necessary, and using them simply for the sake of using them get us horrendous shit storms like Google's new image search site which manage to scroll at the incredible speed of 1 "page" of images per minute.

If you think you need flash you are sorely mistaken, you can get your free porn fix quite easily from any myriad of rapidshare, megaupload etc, torrent sites or usenet.

The only use for flash was the animations found on sites like newgrounds or on South Park.

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RE: F* Apple, AND Adobe!
by Doc Pain on Mon 16th Aug 2010 22:13 in reply to "F* Apple, AND Adobe!"
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2006-10-08

I for one cannot WAIT for a truly open, truly anonymous, and truly standards compliant web.


Allow me to add another requirement (that I personally consider very important, too): a barrier-free web. This includes the ability to receive content, no matter if you're blind, deaf, or just have a "nice OS". Conforming to standards is one of the major steps into this direction, as is the urgent need for free and open implementations of that standards - without involving patents, fees and all the unneeded crap that dictates how we experience the web today. Things like interoperability and compatibility also count, especially when looking at the future.

It's going to happen, and when it does, our species will evolve and improve much more quickly!


I don't think so. Observations point into a different direction: We're going to vanish into digital medieval times. We have books more than 100 years old, paintings older than 500 years, evidences of history older than 1000 years, and we know civilizations older than 3000 years, from paintings on walls, and so on; but what will stay from our digital "memories", our encrypted video content and our periodically obsolete media? ;-)

Edited 2010-08-16 22:24 UTC

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RE[2]: F* Apple, AND Adobe!
by ephracis on Mon 16th Aug 2010 23:21 in reply to "RE: F* Apple, AND Adobe!"
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2007-09-23

I don't think so. Observations point into a different direction: We're going to vanish into digital medieval times. We have books more than 100 years old, paintings older than 500 years, evidences of history older than 1000 years, and we know civilizations older than 3000 years, from paintings on walls, and so on; but what will stay from our digital "memories", our encrypted video content and our periodically obsolete media? ;-)

I hope this is tongue-in-cheek. We will always have physical objects. Agreed that maybe too much will be in digital form but never everything.

The most important thing to keep physical for historical reasons are literature and paintings. It's the best way to communicate everyday life, ideas, opinions, etc. I doubt movies will ever survive for thousands of years and still be playable.

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