Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 16th Aug 2010 18:49 UTC
Internet & Networking Not too long ago Adobe started a "We love Apple" campaign, as a response to Apple's continuous negative remarks about the company. With Flash 10.1 slowly but surely appearing on more and more mobile devices, it seems like the company just doesn't care about it any more. Adobe's CEO Shantanu Narayen has said they've "moved on".
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RE[2]: F* Apple, AND Adobe!
by Kivada on Tue 17th Aug 2010 08:45 UTC in reply to "RE: F* Apple, AND Adobe!"
Kivada
Member since:
2010-07-07

And what crapliy made news sites are you using that require flash? 99% of news can be found elsewhere easily on sites that don't require flash.

I hate flash for the same reason I hate jscript, it's a slow, buggy, security hole laden turd.

Neither of which are necessary, and using them simply for the sake of using them get us horrendous shit storms like Google's new image search site which manage to scroll at the incredible speed of 1 "page" of images per minute.

If you think you need flash you are sorely mistaken, you can get your free porn fix quite easily from any myriad of rapidshare, megaupload etc, torrent sites or usenet.

The only use for flash was the animations found on sites like newgrounds or on South Park.

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RE[3]: F* Apple, AND Adobe!
by nt_jerkface on Tue 17th Aug 2010 16:30 in reply to "RE[2]: F* Apple, AND Adobe!"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

And what crapliy made news sites are you using that require flash? 99% of news can be found elsewhere easily on sites that don't require flash.


Local news sites still make significant use of flash.

But thanks for telling me what my browsing needs are. Maybe you should work for Apple.


If you think you need flash you are sorely mistaken,


Oh am I? I like to visit Gametrailers.com and there isn't a non-Flash alternative.

Flash isn't going anywhere. Both you and Jobs are going to have to deal with this reality.

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RE[4]: F* Apple, AND Adobe!
by Kivada on Wed 18th Aug 2010 01:21 in reply to "RE[3]: F* Apple, AND Adobe!"
Kivada Member since:
2010-07-07

Try again next time pal, I don't use a Mac, I've been running Linux for the past 6 years as my only OS.

Flash is a useless turd, its the only reason Firefox would crash on any OS I've used up till the last few updates that pulled the flash plugin out of the process tree, but it's still capable of slowing any system to a crawl.

I live in south east Wisconsin, there are no less then 6 local news stations, for news sites there are several more when you take into account the local papers and newsletters, all up thats something like 15 local news sites, there isn't much I can't find without flash, what I can't I get off the Mythbuntu media server with the Gray-Hoverman antenna.

Just because someone is anti flash doesn't mean they drink the coolaid, hell, most of the Mac users I know don't drink it either and either run OSx86 or run it in a VM simply because the Mac versions of the apps they need for work are simply better then the Windows counterparts.

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RE[3]: F* Apple, AND Adobe!
by vivainio on Tue 17th Aug 2010 18:50 in reply to "RE[2]: F* Apple, AND Adobe!"
vivainio Member since:
2008-12-26


I hate flash for the same reason I hate jscript, it's a slow, buggy, security hole laden turd.


You should try changing your browser, you could find this new ajaxy "web 2.0" thing quite a change from the old web.

You may want to start your experiments with gmail.

If you think you need flash you are sorely mistaken, you can get your free porn fix quite easily from any myriad of rapidshare, megaupload etc, torrent sites or usenet.


Clearly you don't have a wife - even if you may not need flash, women manage to find themselves in flash powered websites every now and then (and subsequently complain about your misconfigured computer).

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RE[4]: F* Apple, AND Adobe!
by Kivada on Wed 18th Aug 2010 02:38 in reply to "RE[3]: F* Apple, AND Adobe!"
Kivada Member since:
2010-07-07

Have a throw away gmail account as well I'm running FF 3.6.8, so yeah, I'm seeing all this ajax garbage, it's actually making the web experience suck more now then before there was stopscript and adblock plus. Seriously, all of these sites redesigning and ending up with a complicated POS with half of the functionality then they previously had. Case in point, the Newegg redesign, they've changed some, but not all of the horrid and deceptive design changes, but compare is still broken with the 5 item limit and power search for most sections is badly broken, showing few to no parts that you can find in stock via other means.

Marriage is the leading cause of divorce. I also like my stuff too much to give someone I hate half of it.

That and yes, I've got the social networking time holes blocked at the router as well as on the machines themselves, to force anyone visiting, to, you know, interact with those around them instead of updating their status so someone with more intelligence then them can rob them because they know they aren't home.

So yes, I hate what the web is becoming, it's getting more and more "me too" feature creep with no to negative gain for anyone but the web designers that got paid to fuck up perfectly good sites.

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