Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 19th Aug 2010 16:15 UTC, submitted by poundsmack
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Fascinating stuff, but not entirely unexpected. As most of you will know, BlackBerry maker Research In Motion is working on a tablet dubbed the BlackPad, and according to several sources reporting to Bloomberg, the device will ship with software written by QNs Software Systems, which RIM purchased earlier this year.
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RE[3]: Surprise
by galvanash on Fri 20th Aug 2010 03:09 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Surprise"
galvanash
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2006-01-25

OTOH, if they ported the API's to Linux, they might still have developers come 2013.


No offense, but do you know anything about BB development? RIM uses J2ME with a bit of custom stuff underneath (not much really). Its java. The NATIVE api is java...

The kernel they run is about as relevant to a developer as the color of the case.

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RE[4]: Surprise
by vivainio on Fri 20th Aug 2010 05:08 in reply to "RE[3]: Surprise"
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2008-12-26


The kernel they run is about as relevant to a developer as the color of the case.


I'm not talking just about the kernel (neither QNX or Linux are just about the kernel). You could layer BB API's over a full Linux system. I've said it before, but RIM should have implemented the full proprietary BB stack over the MeeGo core.

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RE[5]: Surprise
by galvanash on Fri 20th Aug 2010 06:34 in reply to "RE[4]: Surprise"
galvanash Member since:
2006-01-25

I'm not talking just about the kernel (neither QNX or Linux are just about the kernel). You could layer BB API's over a full Linux system. I've said it before, but RIM should have implemented the full proprietary BB stack over the MeeGo core.


Ok, but to what end? I realize this blackpad thing may be an entirely different beast, but RIM devices up to now have one and only one public API - J2ME (with their UIApplication framework bolted on to make things feel a bit more native for those that don't mind loosing portability).

Do you actually think RIM would _want_ to enable developers to write native applications targeting an underlying OS (like MeeGo or QNX or whatever)??? Why on earth would they ever do that? Do you really think they would want to support such a thing? More importantly, do you really think they could support such a thing?

If they isn't your goal with this whole use Linux thing, what is exactly? Is it just that you like the way Meego looks? I means don't get me wrong, the underlying platform matters to some degree, but for a phone with a J2ME API the look and feel is pretty much arbitrary, and it certainly doesn't have a platform dependency. If they wanted it to look like MeeGo, or an iPhone, or whatever, they could - without a whole lot of work (relatively speaking) and without requiring a new stack.

RIM's core competency is all tied up into BES deployments - they make email devices that can run a few apps as a bonus. They are primarily corporate devices for corporate users with corporate sensibilities.

I'm not saying they don't need to compete with iOS and Android, they do and they better or they will eventually get their asses handed to them... But at the same time, they need to stay within their own core competency. I frankly don't think RIM has the expertise to release a device that allows low level API access without blundering badly...

What they need imho, is simply better hardware. Their latest and fastest phone (Torch) has a wimpy 624Mhz Marvell processor, a relatively shitty screen, and just feels cheap and plastic compared to an iPhone and even some of the better Android phones. Better faster hardware is what they need, not a different software stack.

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