Linked by David Adams on Mon 23rd Aug 2010 16:42 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Here's the dirty little secret about Android: After all the work Apple did to get AT&T to relinquish device control for the iPhone and all the great efforts Google made to get the FCC and the U.S. telecoms to agree to open access rules as part of the 700 MHz auction, Android is taking all of those gains and handing the power back to the telecoms.
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WorknMan
Member since:
2005-11-13

You are aware that you are correct only by technicality? In order to install any software you want you must root (instead of jail breaking) your phone.


If by software you mean different ROMs, you're right. But then again, so what? Once the bootloader is unlocked, it's not like rooting an android phone is rocket science.

And anyway, this isn't really any different than the PC world. You buy a PC from an OEM, they load it down with crapware. You format it as soon as you get it home and install whatever you want. No biggie ;)

Of course, you DO have to wait for the phone to be rooted, but rooting a phone is legal now, and they almost always figure out a way to unlock the bootloader.

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Jondice Member since:
2006-09-20

#1, it depends on the phone - i checked a few days ago and the droid 2 still hasn't been rooted (of course, it depends on the phone).

#2, to the poser saying that allowing unknown sources gets you any software, this is also wrong; what rooting a device lets you do is install software that doesn't necessarily run on Dalvik or software that modifies system configuration files. A useful example is a wireless tethering application.

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calfolds Member since:
2010-08-23

I was responding to the claim that you could install anything you want on android without jail breaking, which is just wrong. I wanted to make the philosophical point that will generally less restricted on Android, the phones are just as locked down as iPhones.

And I think it is a different situation from a PC because with a PC you don't have to hack a firmware to over come carrier imposed restriction on the software that is allowed to run.

To make an iPhone truly yours you have to jailbreak it. With an android you have to root it. 6 of one and a half dozen of the other.

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WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

To make an iPhone truly yours you have to jailbreak it. With an android you have to root it. 6 of one and a half dozen of the other.


Eh, not quite... the big difference is that in android, there's an option to enable installing apps from outside sources, and you don't have to root for that. Granted, that doesn't give you access to EVERYTHING, but it's a lot more open than the iPhone out of the box.

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joshv Member since:
2006-03-18

I was responding to the claim that you could install anything you want on android without jail breaking, which is just wrong. I wanted to make the philosophical point that will generally less restricted on Android, the phones are just as locked down as iPhones.


Sorry, you are wrong. You can install any apk you want, regardless of where it comes from, and it will have access to all of the same APIs that are available to Google Market applications.

No, you don't have arbitrary access to the underlying Unix APIs, but shit dude, this is java running in VM (er.... sorry, java like code running in a java-esque vm). This isn't a carrier restriction, it's a platform restriction, and one I happen to like. If I want to hack linux I'll do it on my desktop, not my phone.

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