Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 25th Aug 2010 22:19 UTC
Multimedia, AV A couple of days ago we talked about how the RIAA and NAB are planning on asking US Congress to mandate FM radio chips inside every cell phone. This plan was met with some ridicule, so the NAB decided to write a blog post addressing the critics. Most of the post is overshadowed by an overdose of America's favourite national pastime: WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE. 9/11!
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Why?
by Tuishimi on Thu 26th Aug 2010 01:52 UTC
Tuishimi
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2005-07-06

Why do non-Americans find it necessary to comment (and not generally favorably) on purely American issues? (Surely you don't believe this issue will somehow affect Europe?)

Yeah I know, our government has its nose in everyone's business (which I don't agree with and vote against accordingly during elections). So that makes it O.K. to make glib comments about Americans in general?

As for the comment about air raid sirens ... consider the difference in area of our two countries (Netherlands and USA):

USA is 9,629,090 km2
Netherlands is 41,526 km2

Do you see a difference here? How well do you think that would work, with our population spread across that area (many away from cities)? What is the range (effective range, by that I mean something loud enough to catch a person's attention right away) of an air raid siren? How many would have to be scattered across the USA?

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RE: Why?
by jack_perry on Thu 26th Aug 2010 01:56 in reply to "Why?"
jack_perry Member since:
2005-07-06

I suspect the problem is not so much square mileage, but the near-universal inability of urban folk to see outside their very narrow points of view, and imagine just a few of the circumstances that make life very, very different for people who don't live in cities.

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RE[2]: Why?
by Tuishimi on Thu 26th Aug 2010 02:55 in reply to "RE: Why?"
Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

Maybe. I've done both, growing up in Boston and then spending much of my life in a rural town (if one could call it that) where everything was more distant (hospital, grocery store, no city water, etc.) and transportation was necessary. But I am not sure what your statement has to do with the area issue? Are you suggesting no one in the cities would vote to spend money to set up sirens for those in rural areas?

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RE[2]: Why?
by Tuishimi on Thu 26th Aug 2010 02:58 in reply to "RE: Why?"
Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=242059

Most popular air raid and warning sirens today produce a sound level of 127 dB at 100 feet and provide a typical one-mile radius coverage area. At 138 dB the Chrysler Air Raid Siren is approximately two times as loud and will provide a two and one-half mile radius coverage area with the same sound level at the distant edge. The most powerful siren available for purchase today (American Signal's Tempestâ„¢ T-135-ACâ„¢) produces a sound level of 135 dB at 100 feet. The 3dB higher output of the Chrysler Air Raid Siren, at 138 dB, represents twice as much sound energy output.

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RE: Why?
by ferrels on Thu 26th Aug 2010 02:25 in reply to "Why?"
ferrels Member since:
2006-08-15

You get my vote if you ever run for office in the US. I couldn't have said it better myself.

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RE: Why?
by Soulbender on Thu 26th Aug 2010 04:41 in reply to "Why?"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Why do non-Americans find it necessary to comment (and not generally favorably) on purely American issues?


Because Americans find it necessary to comment (and generally not favorably) on issues in every other country?

I agree with you though, air raid sirens is obviously only usefull in urban areas. Plus, sirens does not actually inform you what is wrong, only that something is wrong. You'd still have to find a way to listen to a radio or watch a TV so even in this case it could be an advantage to have a radio in your phone.

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RE[2]: Why?
by Tuishimi on Thu 26th Aug 2010 06:00 in reply to "RE: Why?"
Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

"Why do non-Americans find it necessary to comment (and not generally favorably) on purely American issues?


Because Americans find it necessary to comment (and generally not favorably) on issues in every other country?
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Really? I just don't see that. I don't comment, no one I "hang" with does either. One friend wants to move to Canada. My wife loves (and has stayed there for awhile, twice) Spain. My co-workers never mention Europe or China or any other union or country for that matter in day to day conversation (unless something unfortunate has happened and it is to commiserate, like a plane crash)... mostly if it is politics we concern ourselves with local politics (gun laws, marriage laws, taxes, etc.)

I mean, WHAT would Americans have to say about the PEOPLE in other countries? "Oh those Italians, wow, they have big noses and womanize all day long!" I mean, seriously? Most people I know have enough to worry about here, at home; no need to worry about your problems.

I agree with you though, air raid sirens is obviously only usefull in urban areas. Plus, sirens does not actually inform you what is wrong, only that something is wrong. You'd still have to find a way to listen to a radio or watch a TV so even in this case it could be an advantage to have a radio in your phone.


Thank you.

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RE: Why?
by Vanders on Thu 26th Aug 2010 09:41 in reply to "Why?"
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2005-07-06


USA is 9,629,090 km2
Netherlands is 41,526 km2


A proper comparison is between the USA and the EU:

EU is 4,324,782 km2

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RE[2]: Why?
by Tuishimi on Thu 26th Aug 2010 14:59 in reply to "RE: Why?"
Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

And all of EU uses air raid sirens as their notification tool? Of course even if that is the case, they were likely put in place BEFORE there was an EU. Probably back during WWII, out of necessity.

Edited 2010-08-26 15:00 UTC

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