Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 30th Aug 2010 22:47 UTC
Apple Since interesting news that I'm actually knowledgeable about is still a little hard to come by, I have to work a little harder. This is something interesting to discuss: John Gruber, rather famous Apple blogger, is now arguing that Apple is in fact not fighting the jailbreaking community. Wait, what?
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computeruser
Member since:
2009-07-21

Apple could take more technical measures to discourage jailbreaking.
They don't push upgrades to devices. They allow continued use of the App Store and push notifications with older (vulnerable) OS versions and on jailbroken devices. iTunes continues to sync with devices not running the latest available firmware..

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mrhasbean Member since:
2006-04-03

Apple could take more technical measures to discourage jailbreaking.
They don't push upgrades to devices. They allow continued use of the App Store and push notifications with older (vulnerable) OS versions and on jailbroken devices. iTunes continues to sync with devices not running the latest available firmware..


Exactly, but as someone said in another comment - people often cherry-pick facts to support their argument so in this article these wouldn't even be a blip on the radar...

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dvhh Member since:
2006-03-20

And there are still less "insecure" ways to jailbreak your iPhone.
The PDF exploit was a big hole in the security record that Apple try to keep as clean as possible, and was easily fixable too (update the freetype rendering library).

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Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

Apple could take more technical measures to discourage jailbreaking.
They don't push upgrades to devices. They allow continued use of the App Store and push notifications with older (vulnerable) OS versions and on jailbroken devices. iTunes continues to sync with devices not running the latest available firmware..

Of course they don't !
1/How could they technically push updates ?
2/What about those that don't have a proper internet connection at home ?
3/What would you think of a brand who forces people to download 30MB regularly over their old internet connection in order to continue to use their product ?

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RagaR Member since:
2010-06-22

1/How could they technically push updates ?
2/What about those that don't have a proper internet connection at home ?
3/What would you think of a brand who forces people to download 30MB regularly over their old internet connection in order to continue to use their product ?


I like freedom, I have a Palm Pre. I have UeberKernel installed and that is why I like to decide about updates. Bad thing, Palm don't let choose you. You can say "not yet", but during midnight and with a good connections, it is installed.

It is possible.
It can be done when it is possible to do it.
Smartphones only make sense with a internet flat rate. Who cares?

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computeruser Member since:
2009-07-21

1/How could they technically push updates ?

WebOS devices seem to have online updates pushed to them. Android devices seem to have over-the-air updates as well, but I don't know if the updates are ever automatic.

2/What about those that don't have a proper internet connection at home ?

Without an Internet connection, iTunes won't check for updates.

3/What would you think of a brand who forces people to download 30MB regularly over their old internet connection in order to continue to use their product ?

People weren't forced to buy the product in the first place. The set of people who both use insufficient internet connections and buy devices that depend on fast internet connections for much of their functionality is very small.

This is exactly the case for platforms like Xbox Live, which requires frequent software updates to continue using online features.

One way to do this would be to disable syncing with firmware that was old at the time of the latest desktop app release. This would require the user to download the newer version of the desktop app before syncing would be prevented. But they don't do this.

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