Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 30th Aug 2010 22:47 UTC
Apple Since interesting news that I'm actually knowledgeable about is still a little hard to come by, I have to work a little harder. This is something interesting to discuss: John Gruber, rather famous Apple blogger, is now arguing that Apple is in fact not fighting the jailbreaking community. Wait, what?
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RE: So, let's review.
by Kroc on Tue 31st Aug 2010 07:33 UTC in reply to "So, let's review."
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What you’re missing is the part where they tried as hard as they could to prevent jailbreaking _before_ the release of iOS4, but missed a hole that hackers found in the PDF viewer.

It’s not like Apple provide a doJailbreak (); API for those who want to. Hackers are having to rely on good old-fashioned programming flaws to get in, and it’s not without trying.

Apple don’t want jailbreaking—period. They will up the anté with the next hardware & software release.

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RE[2]: So, let's review.
by Vargol on Tue 31st Aug 2010 18:11 in reply to "RE: So, let's review."
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Oh yes a jail breaking API.

Now let's write the next iOS virus.

int main(void) {
return 0;

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RE[3]: So, let's review.
by Neolander on Tue 31st Aug 2010 20:36 in reply to "RE[2]: So, let's review."
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This just makes my head hurt.

Root access must be available on the iDevices with or withoug jailbreaking. It is used by iTunes and the App store application, among other things.
Legit jailbreaking just means letting the user run a root terminal app on his phone, in a controlled fashion (ie no rogue app can exploit this terminal app).

Why do you all seem to consider that as a security flaw ? Guys who jailbreak their phone are supposed to know what they are doing and not execute some random script shell in a root terminal. And this kind of user-related security flaw is the *sole* new vulnerability added by jailbreaking.

If jailbreaking didn't exist (which essentially means suppressing the root terminal icon in the phone application panel), root access would still be there for Apple apps. Anyone hacking Apple servers could still remotely shut down all iOS devices in the fashion Apple remotely killed the iPhone 4 prototype. No security flaw would be removed.

How is it hard to understand ?

Edited 2010-08-31 20:38 UTC

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