Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 31st Aug 2010 22:09 UTC
Legal Despite doing what I think are some great things for the American people, the Obama administration has a dark side. Joe Biden and many others on staff come straight from the RIAA camp, and it shows. Today, the Obama administration disregarded every US law relating to theft and copyright by stating that piracy is "flat, unadulterated theft".
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Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

Sneaking into a concert is also theft even though you didn't leave with anything material.


Sneaking into a concert is breaking and entering, not theft. If you stand outside ArenA stadium in Amsterdam during a concert, you can hear the music - without paying. Is that theft too?

If you'd walk past my house now, you could hear me playing The Velvet Underground's "Heroin". Is that theft too?

If I open my window while driving, people can hear me playing albums. Is that theft?

Edited 2010-09-01 08:26 UTC

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Arawn Member since:
2005-07-13

Well, in the UK you can't even do that, it would be at least "copyright infringement":

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/7029...

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090202/0128383597.shtml

Bloody ridiculous!! ;)

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LighthouseJ Member since:
2009-06-18

The act of sneaking in the B&E is one thing, but recording a performance without permission is a different matter once you get inside. I'm thinking wiretapping-related laws in the US, YMMV in Netherlands.

Bands and other acts know that music will leak out from the venue, but you're paying to visually seeing the band up close (relative to your tickets), seeing the stage performance (lighting, etc...) and music in high quality, rather than hearing muffled sounds in the distance.

Edited 2010-09-01 12:21 UTC

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phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

and music in high quality, rather than hearing muffled sounds in the distance.


Hah! If only. I would gladly pay the $100+ CDN ticket price for a lot more acts ... if they would actually spend 10 minutes (or more!!) getting the acoustics right, instead of just flipping every dial to 11 and going for coffee.

There's nothing worse than going to a concert and not understanding a thing they are saying, or even being able to figure out what song is playing, because there's 120,000 Watts of pure noise being pumped off the stage.

I'll spend $20 CDN on a CD with good acoustic (although those are getting harder and harder to find) levels and listen at home, thank you very much.

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nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26


Sneaking into a concert is breaking and entering, not theft.


Yes it is theft just like skipping out on a taxi cab or a massage session. Sneaking into a movie theater is also theft.

You're taking a service without paying for it.

Not sure why you were voted a 10. It's called theft of services and every Western country has a statute for it.


If you stand outside ArenA stadium in Amsterdam during a concert, you can hear the music - without paying. Is that theft too?


No because they are charging to get into the concert.

Do you really not see the difference?

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