Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 31st Aug 2010 22:09 UTC
Legal Despite doing what I think are some great things for the American people, the Obama administration has a dark side. Joe Biden and many others on staff come straight from the RIAA camp, and it shows. Today, the Obama administration disregarded every US law relating to theft and copyright by stating that piracy is "flat, unadulterated theft".
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Yes, it is theft, I fully agree.
by axilmar on Wed 1st Sep 2010 12:10 UTC
axilmar
Member since:
2006-03-20

The real reason for this debate ("if piracy is theft or not"), is, as always, money.

By pirating, some people are derived of money they would have if their stuff was not pirated.

By pirating, some people enjoy goods that did not pay for.

Piracy is theft.

Let's be honest for a minute. The only reason we, the common folks, say it is not is because we want to justify our behavior, i.e. the illegal downloading of software, songs, etc.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Let's be honest for a minute. The only reason we, the common folks, say it is not is because we want to justify our behavior, i.e. the illegal downloading of software, songs, etc.


Except.. In The Netherlands, and most of Europe, it's not illegal.

Which makes sense. Copyright is a state-granted monopoly on distribution. Downloading is not distributing, and as such, you;re not violating copyright by downloading. Uploading, or making available in any other way, is distributing, and as such, that IS a violation of copyright.

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axilmar Member since:
2006-03-20

Indeed. Downloading is not violation of copyright, it's theft. Like when you steal a book from a bookshop.

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m_abs Member since:
2005-07-06

By pirating, some people are derived of money they would have if their stuff was not pirated.

Only if the person who made the illegal copy:
a) would have bought it if he/she didn't make the copy.
b) doesn't buy it afterwards.

By pirating, some people enjoy goods that did not pay for.

Maybe. Not enough to make it theft.

Piracy is theft.

Theft is taken something that belongs to others. Since illegal copying is just making a copy leaving the original there it was, nothing has been taken.

"Piracy" is NOT theft. It can't be.

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