Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 1st Sep 2010 21:41 UTC
Windows It's been only a mere six months since its first unveiling, but Microsoft has already announced that Windows Phone 7 has been released to manufacturing. This means device makers can start tuning the software to their hardware, leaving plenty of time to release devices before the holiday season.
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RE: All the people I know
by Drumhellar on Thu 2nd Sep 2010 01:11 UTC in reply to "All the people I know"
Drumhellar
Member since:
2005-07-12

Their loss.

I associate Windows with stability, flexibility, and a huge software base. And, yes, while keeping a straight face, security.

Now, before you start laughing, Windows 7 is very stable, secure, and once it's been coupled with MS Security Essentials, boosts security and takes care of much of the malware problem.

Instability and bad security stems from the Win9x era + uneducated users.

Complexity? Compared to... having to manually add modelines by hand? Or horizontal/vertical timings? I know that hasn't been necessary in a long time, but still...

I've been using NT on my desk since NT4, even for gaming, and have been quite satisfied.

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RE[2]: All the people I know
by toast88 on Thu 2nd Sep 2010 08:02 in reply to "RE: All the people I know"
toast88 Member since:
2009-09-23

Their loss.

I associate Windows with stability, flexibility, and a huge software base. And, yes, while keeping a straight face, security.

Now, before you start laughing,


I do and I have a point or, should I say, vulnerabilities:

http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Microsoft-continues-to-w...

http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Microsoft-tool-for-DLL-vulne...

http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Attackers-exploit-DLL-vu...

http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/lnk-vulnerability-in-Win...

http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/lnk-vulnerability-Micros...

http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Microsoft-s-August-patch...

http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Quarrels-about-new-Windo...

http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Windows-Help-used-as-att...

http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Microsoft-warns-of-criti...

http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Microsoft-closes-critica...

http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Microsoft-to-fix-critica...

http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Revised-patch-for-Window...

http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Microsoft-finally-to-clo...

To be honest. I'd go mad if I were forced to use Windows. There have been no months during this year without any news regarding a critical vulnerability in Microsoft Windows.

Especially the current DLL hi-jack vulnerability would drive me nuts. Microsoft announced that they're not going to fix it. Obviously, Windows has a fundamental design problem here and fixing the bug would probably mean patching a lot of applications.

See:

http://www.exploit-db.com/dll-hijacking-vulnerable-applications/

As a Windows user you should be aware of all these problems and admit that there are a lot of security issues with Windows!

Adrian

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RE[3]: All the people I know
by kaiwai on Thu 2nd Sep 2010 08:52 in reply to "RE[2]: All the people I know"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

As a Windows user you should be aware of all these problems and admit that there are a lot of security issues with Windows!


Swings and round-abouts in the end; all operating systems have vulnerabilities of some sort in the end - you can either live in a state of denial, a state of hyper paranoia rushing from one operating system to the next or simply accept that fallible humans write complex software and there will always be bugs and problems somewhere along the line. The DLL being the most problematic but now a bug fix has been issued and it is up to the individual software vendors to release updates for their software as well.

It is of zero benefit this tit of tat rubbish that occurs with people behaving like 5 year olds jumping up and down pointing whilst screaming, "look! look!".

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Drumhellar Member since:
2005-07-12

With the exception of the .lnk and the .dll vulnerabilities, those affect older, pre-Vista versions of Windows, or affect software that isn't included in a default Windows install. If there are any that (besides the aforementioned vulnerabilities) that apply to Windows 7, I didn't see them, as I feel clicking 6 or 7 links from a single burst of link spam is well beyond generous.

All you have pointed out is that software has vulnerabilities. I could also generate a list of vulnerabilities that effect various Linux distributions, especially if I go back 9 years (the age of XP), or 10 1/2 years (the age of Windows 2000)

The .lnk vulnerability is not so bad. All the shortcuts on my system are created either by installation programs (which I have already trusted to make changes to my system), or by myself. As I have yet to download an app that did not need to be installed, but still included shortcuts, finding such an app would seem suspicious to me.

The .dll is not so bad. It requires a healthy bit of social engineering, requiring a person to browse to a malicious SMB or WebDAV server with Windows Explorer, and double click a file to open it, then click through various warning dialogs about the danger of opening unknown content from untrusted sources.

And, Microsoft has already released a tool that disallows DLL loading from network shares.

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