Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 9th Sep 2010 13:00 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems So, we have Intel and AMD. These guys are doing pretty well in laptops, servers, and of course desktops, but when it comes to mobile devices, they've so far been unable to adapt the x86 architecture to the stricter requirements that come with those devices. ARM, on the other hand, pretty much owns this market at this point. And you know what? It's time for Intel and AMD to get worried - really worried. ARM has just announced its Cortex-A15 MPCore chips - which will reach 2.5Ghz in quad-core configurations.
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RE: Microsoft Windows + ARM?
by lucas_maximus on Thu 9th Sep 2010 14:07 UTC in reply to "Microsoft Windows + ARM?"
lucas_maximus
Member since:
2009-08-18

Considering there has been versions of Windows NT running on Alpha and even PowerPC, Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 (and I think even Server 2008 R1) running on Itanium ... I don't think it is a huge problem for them to port windows to another platform if it becomes popular.

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RE[2]: Microsoft Windows + ARM?
by jabjoe on Thu 9th Sep 2010 15:34 in reply to "RE: Microsoft Windows + ARM?"
jabjoe Member since:
2009-05-06

Great, Windows with no software. The thing the Linux software world has that the Windows software does not is the source. Any single distribution can port all the software they want to. In Windows world each company will do a cost analysis to see if it's worth doing. This causes a chicken and egg problem, why port to a platform (ARM/Windows) with no users, why buy into a platform with no software. Etc etc etc. In Linux world, the repository is just compiled, fixing anything that comes up on the new compile target. Windows is wedded to x86 until death do they depart, unless .NET hype is to believed, and lets not beat about the push, .NET is just JAVA all over again. Best case for them, all Windows apps are byte coded, but the platform they will be competing against will have native apps....

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

.NET hype is very real for ASP.NET applications and website. Pretty much every job around my Area in England is either ASP.NET.

These chips seem to be going being pushed for servers, where most ASP.NET applications are run, if the cost of the machines and the saving via power (which is very important for the organisation I work for since they have a large "green drive") is worth it, I can see organisations moving to this.

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PlatformAgnostic Member since:
2006-01-02

2k8 R2 also runs on itanium.

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TemporalBeing Member since:
2007-08-22

WinCE supports ARM too, so they are familiar with the architecture. It wouldn't be a big leap for them given the design of WinNT and its HAL layer. However, it would screw them out of all the software that runs on Windows, so as another pointed out there's no incentive as there is no software base to keep them in the lead, especially when Linux provides a huge software base on every processor it runs on, which is well over 100 different processor (e.g. x86, amd64, arm) and processor variations (e.g. i386, i486, ppro, p4).

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RE[2]: Microsoft Windows + ARM?
by renox on Thu 9th Sep 2010 19:49 in reply to "RE: Microsoft Windows + ARM?"
renox Member since:
2005-07-06

Considering there has been versions of Windows NT running on Alpha and even PowerPC, Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 (and I think even Server 2008 R1) running on Itanium ... I don't think it is a huge problem for them to port windows to another platform if it becomes popular.


Sure, but will third parties port their software over Windows/anything else than x86 ?
They didn't for the Alpha, so I don't see why they would do it for the ARM.

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bhtooefr Member since:
2009-02-19

They could make Windows 8 support fat binaries, and refuse to give certain major features to applications that aren't fat, so that developers will compile for ARM to take advantage of Windows 8 features.

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