Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 9th Sep 2010 17:40 UTC, submitted by kragil
Linux Ahem. I just had to write that all-caps headline. Broadcom's wireless chips - used by just about everybody in this industry - have been a major pain in the bum for Linux users, because the company did not release open source drivers. Workarounds had to be created, lots of pain was had in the process, but now, Broadcom has finally seen the light: they have open sourced their wireless Linux drivers.
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RE[3]: Great news...
by Gusar on Fri 10th Sep 2010 12:54 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Great news..."
Gusar
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2010-07-16

KMS is a pre-requisite for the coming upgrade to X that will allow "rootless" X

The nvidia blob doesn't require X running as root and hasn't for quite some time. All it requires is access to the /dev/nvidia and /dev/nvidiactl device nodes, which is achieved by putting the user in the video group, where they need to be for open source drivers too.
There's other stuff requiring X to run as root for now, I don't know details, but I think it regards input device handling, and there's also X writing it's log to /var/log where a user doesn't have write access. Once that stuff is fixed, both open source KMS drivers and the nvidia blob will run on a "rootless" X.

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RE[4]: Great news...
by lemur2 on Sat 11th Sep 2010 08:38 in reply to "RE[3]: Great news..."
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Once that stuff is fixed, both open source KMS drivers and the nvidia blob will run on a "rootless" X.


Not according to this article:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzM2MA
Due to now living in a KMS-enabled world, at least on the Intel and ATI side (the NVIDIA side is still slowly but surely coming via Nouveau), it's rather easy to get the X Server running without any special rights. Intel's Jesse Barnes explains on the X.Org mailing list that only a small patch is needed for the X Server and then a trivial one to the Direct Rendering Manager in the kernel.


It reads as if KMS is a requirement, and that given that then "it's rather easy to get the X Server running without any special rights".

It also infers that Nvidia users will have to be running Nouveau and not the Nvidia proprietary binary driver.

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RE[5]: Great news...
by Gusar on Sat 11th Sep 2010 09:08 in reply to "RE[4]: Great news..."
Gusar Member since:
2010-07-16

Phoronix is basically one person. He can and does make mistakes. Here you have a confirmation of what I said, straight from a Nvidia employee: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=1946515#post194651...
And there's other such posts from Nvidia employees at nvnews.net too, this was just the first one I found after a very quick search.

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