Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 14th Sep 2010 22:42 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu If there's one consistent piece of criticism that gets lobbed in Canonical's and Mark Shuttleworth's direction, it's that they do not contribute enough code - or anything else for that matter - to the Free software world. Mark Shuttleworth has apparently had enough, and has written a very, very lengthy blog post detailing how he feels about this criticism.
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Panajev
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2008-01-09

If you want to claim to be a part of the open source community, then contribute. If you're a part of the family, then take out the garbage, wash the dishes, mow the grass once in a while. Guests are always welcome, but don't be surprised if you're not received as warmly as family is.

--bornagainpenguin


This is the kind of attitude that keeps a lot of users away from OSS projects and in the open arms of MS and Apple. Sometimes, it seems that such users are not really welcomed by everyone so losing them to proprietary software is not a big loss.

Non code contributing/hacking users are seen as annoying leechers and their problems are a nuisance.

Luckily, not all OSS projects share this way of thinking.

Edited 2010-09-15 09:38 UTC

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WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Non code contributing/hacking users are seen as annoying leechers and their problems are a nuisance.

Indeed, it's a really annoying attitude some people harbor. Not everyone can contribute code and not everyone can contribute _good_ code. But everyone can contribute atleast something, be it one-on-one help every now and then on IRC channels, writing guides, tutorials or manuals, maintain a community portal and so on. Those are all still very important things and the Linux world would not be where it is if everyone just did code but not the other stuff. And Ubuntu DOES contribute community portals, guides, tutorials and all those things.

Besides, even if someone wasn't contributing anything IMHO they'd still have the right to choose and use F/OSS software. After all, isn't the whole point of it all to provide software for everyone regardless of what they do, where they do, how they do, or who they are?

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felipec Member since:
2007-09-25

Non code contributing/hacking users are seen as annoying leechers and their problems are a nuisance.

Users are most definitely not leechers, because many of them are giving back what they can. It's the company that is taking from the linux community to build their own product without giving back.

Indeed, it's a really annoying attitude some people harbor. Not everyone can contribute code and not everyone can contribute _good_ code. But everyone can contribute atleast something, be it one-on-one help every now and then on IRC channels, writing guides, tutorials or manuals, maintain a community portal and so on. Those are all still very important things and the Linux world would not be where it is if everyone just did code but not the other stuff. And Ubuntu DOES contribute community portals, guides, tutorials and all those things.

You are confusing things. Whatever support is given in Ubuntu forums, or Ubuntu IRC channel, is geared towards Ubuntu, and benefits the Ubuntu community.

Contributions on distribution-agnostic topics is a contribution to the linux community, but that's contribution != collaboration. Collaboration requires shared development.

Some Ubuntu people might collaborate, and others contribute, but not CANONICAL. Get it?

Besides, even if someone wasn't contributing anything IMHO they'd still have the right to choose and use F/OSS software. After all, isn't the whole point of it all to provide software for everyone regardless of what they do, where they do, how they do, or who they are?

Nobody is complaining about Ubuntu users. Nobody is complaining about the Ubuntu distribution it itself. The complaint is about CANONICAL. Do you get it? The company.

The company has the resources, the company has the expertise, the company is the one that is deciding to keep their development confined to their product.

Repeat after me: CANONICAL.

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