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RE[5]: You obviously don't get open source
by Panajev on Wed 15th Sep 2010 11:57
in reply to "RE[4]: You obviously don't get open source"
Canonical isn't even trying
Really? Do they pay their designers and programmers for doing nothing? Do they have a not small staff which sits around and does nothing all day?
They have resources, they just don't want to share them.
Which is why they made a proprietary closed source solution nobody can learn anything from... right?
There is a lot more than the code those upstream projects provide. Even the glue that binds them together and exposes them to users without making them insane is highly valuable but, together with emphasis on UI design (and other areas that non computer enthusiasts focus on/feel are important), is often labelled as trivial "easy" work and this attitude is not helping the OSS world.
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RE[6]: You obviously don't get open source
by felipec on Wed 15th Sep 2010 12:32
in reply to "RE[5]: You obviously don't get open source"
"Canonical isn't even trying
Really? Do they pay their designers and programmers for doing nothing? Do they have a not small staff which sits around and does nothing all day? "
They pay them to work in Ubuntu, and Ubuntu alone.
"They have resources, they just don't want to share them.
Which is why they made a proprietary closed source solution nobody can learn anything from... right?
There is a lot more than the code those upstream projects provide. Even the glue that binds them together and exposes them to users without making them insane is highly valuable but, together with emphasis on UI design (and other areas that non computer enthusiasts focus on/feel are important), is often labelled as trivial "easy" work and this attitude is not helping the OSS world. "
I am not saying what they do is useless; I'm saying they do it for Ubuntu, and couldn't care less whether other distributions finds their work usable or not, nor whether their patches make it upstream or not. That's what the statistics show.




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You are contributing with what you can; giving feedback, so you are a member of the community. Maybe your feedback doesn't materialize in changes to other end-users, but at least you are trying.
Canonical isn't even trying, and they do have something more than bug reports to contribute; code. They have resources, they just don't want to share them.
And BTW, I am a developer, and most likely I've only closed 1% of my bugs as won't fix.
Everyone does things for "self-interest", even people that give money to charities do it because it makes them feel good. The point here is that an evil Canonical would be doing exactly the same thing, unlike an evil RedHat, which would be doing, well, what Canonical is doing.
I have no problem with people using Canonical products; if it works for you, great. Just don't claim that Canonical is collaboration, because that's not true.