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Apple I love OSNews, but it does seem like some of its editors enjoy just a little too much taking a good natured jab at Apple upon occasion (well, more like every chance that particular editor can get). I thought it time for a little good news and analysis about Apple that critics often overlook.
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RE[3]: Comment by Tuishimi
by No it isnt on Thu 16th Sep 2010 21:33 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Tuishimi"
No it isnt
Member since:
2005-11-14

The laptop lines are fine (except the Airbook, which is mostly a vanity product), but the iMacs? The only thing they've got going for them is the form factor, certainly not the price. Upgradability is low, and OS X support cut-off means a >5yr old Mac is obsolete. It's a fine product, but it's still very expensive compared to a comparable PC.

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RE[4]: Comment by Tuishimi
by Morgan on Fri 17th Sep 2010 00:42 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Tuishimi"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Upgradability is low, and OS X support cut-off means a >5yr old Mac is obsolete.


Tell that to the happy folks at lowendmac.com and other PPC/old Mac communities. Hell, I used a G3 PowerBook "Pismo" daily until last year when the power cord shorted and fried the logic board. "Obsolete" is relative; that ten year old G3 'book was the absolute perfect writing machine for me. It had one of the best notebook keyboards ever made, it was quick enough for simultaneous writing, web browsing and listening to music, and it was one of the most durable Mac notebooks ever made. Sure, I'd never play Doom 3 on it, but why would I want to? It was a tool that did its job well, and I am still torn between getting another one and moving into this decade with a new MacBook.

Back to the iMacs in question: All Intel iMacs, all G5 iMacs and most later G4 iMacs can run Leopard, which hasn't been cut off at all. The only thing truly obsolete on those PPC Macs is the video processor, as it is integrated into the logic board and limits usefulness with regard to gaming and watching videos.

Also, while they won't run Snow Leopard, by the time 10.7 comes out (moving Leopard to "unsupported") those Macs will be nearing 10 years old anyway. I'd say that is a good run for an all-in-one PC. Try installing Windows Vista (the older of the two currently supported Microsoft OSes) on a maxed out eight year old Pentium 4 and watch it choke and struggle. I know, I've tried it. On the other hand, Leopard on a G4 iMac is as snappy as Tiger.

As for the current crop of aluminum iMacs, I'd expect them to remain useful and supported at least through the next two OS releases.

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RE[5]: Comment by Tuishimi
by mightshade on Fri 17th Sep 2010 00:53 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Tuishimi"
mightshade Member since:
2008-11-20

Try installing Windows Vista (the older of the two currently supported Microsoft OSes) on a maxed out eight year old Pentium 4 and watch it choke and struggle. I know, I've tried it.

So did I. Vista ran fine on my good old P4. There was no "choke and struggle", ever. It's a shame that it didn't work for you, but "Vista can't run on a maxed out P4" really isn't true.

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RE[4]: Comment by Tuishimi
by Budd on Fri 17th Sep 2010 07:49 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Tuishimi"
Budd Member since:
2005-07-08

No,not really. I am still using my G4 Quicksilver (without upgrade,well except a bigger HDD) almost every day. In fact is my only computer in my countryside home.Flash is dramatically slow on it but I really don't miss it. Email,web and photo work are just fine on it.

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RE[5]: Comment by Tuishimi
by No it isnt on Fri 17th Sep 2010 10:40 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Tuishimi"
No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

It's "fine" because you're fine with the fact that it doesn't run any new software. I've owned a Powerbook and used it long its time, and compared to a Windows PC running an older version of Windows, it was really really painful. Consider using Windows XP (from 2001) today: you may not like it, but it still kinda works. Consider OS X Panther (2003): it doesn't even have a current browser. Add to it the fact that Apple force-obsoletes older hardware so that installing a newer version of OS X is a real chore.

My countryside computer is a Pentium 3, 500 MHz. It runs the latest version of Xubuntu, with updated Firefox and Flash as of April. Installation "just worked", which is more than you can say about installing Leopard on a sub 866 MHz Quicksilver.

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