Linked by mjhi11 on Thu 16th Sep 2010 20:13 UTC
Apple I love OSNews, but it does seem like some of its editors enjoy just a little too much taking a good natured jab at Apple upon occasion (well, more like every chance that particular editor can get). I thought it time for a little good news and analysis about Apple that critics often overlook.
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nt_jerkface
Member since:
2009-08-26


Dragging the application icon to the apps folder is not difficult at all, in fact is the easiest method to install a program imho.


Disk images cause more problems for people than exes. Images should auto-mount upon download and then prompt for confirmation to install to the applications folder. It might not seem like a big deal to us but I have seen people thrown off by it. Part of the problem is that Apple does not encourage a standard method of installation.


System preferences > mouse ... problem solved.


Right click works but that is not what I am talking about. The system itself is designed around a single button mouse. There are many cases where right click should bring up a properties menu.

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mjhi11 Member since:
2009-08-15

My we're getting a little picky aren't we? But since we're there...

Apple's drag and drop a single file (which behind the scenes is really a self-contained folder) is a rather "pure" way of installing a program and I'd love to be able to do the same thing on the PC. In fact, there's a whole niche on the PC side of things regarding portable applications (intended for thumb and external drives but incredibly convenient for PC installs too) that seek to overcome the dreadful registry that Windows is dependent upon.

With that said, when a Mac program ships with its own installer, I'm less than enthusiastic as I know that it'll probably spread files all over my OS X installation and thus make uninstalling a mess.

Back almost 20 years ago, when HD space was at a premium, having a registry and the DLL model was clever as it reduced dependencies upon duplicate files shipping with multiple applications, but conversely, because of the registry we should have never had to deal with incompatible DLLs between programs and I've spent many an hour over the last 20 years or so dealing with DLL issues, incompatible DLLs, registry corruption, the ever-growing registry/performance issue, etc.

As for single button mice, can we not accept that while this may have been true almost 30 years ago, the Mac has supported right button mice for at least a couple of decades now? I know because I used a two button trackball with my first Mac SE roughly 20 years ago. And one could argue that the latest Magic Mouse, which supports multi-touch gestures, it completely leapfrogs anything on the PC side if you're so excited about multiple inputs using your mouse.

For example, as I've drafted this reply I've left single clicked to position the cursor, double left clicked to select a word, tripple left clicked to select a sentence, I've swiped up to scroll up and down the page, I've left and right scrolled to view content laterally, I've used 3 fingers to switch between Spaces between the VNC client running in space 3, Windows 7 Aero running full screen in a VMWare Fusion virtual machine running in space 2 and then back to this reply in space 1. I've right clicked multiple times to pull up a contextual menu in OS X, Windows and the Linux machine I'm currently connected to through VNC.

After adjusting to it for a few days I personally would never go back to a scroll-wheel mouse with physical buttons and a scroll wheel.

While not everyone is as satisfied with the Magic Mouse as I am, it does get a little tiring arguing against supposed Mac limitations that haven't existed for decades, and that have in fact progressed beyond the current state-of-the-art when it comes to PC technology.

And don't even get me started on the touch pad. Hate them with a passion but the second I try to "double finger scroll" on my son's PC Netbook and nothing happens, I'm ready to throw it out the window!

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nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

Apple's drag and drop a single file (which behind the scenes is really a self-contained folder) is a rather "pure" way of installing a program and I'd love to be able to do the same thing on the PC.


It is pure at its core but the implementation is insufficient. This because there is no standard method of getting that self-contained folder to the applications folder. I have seen ISVs implement some weird installation methods that caused confusion for typical users.


Back almost 20 years ago, when HD space was at a premium, having a registry and the DLL model was clever as it reduced dependencies upon duplicate files shipping with multiple applications


I could give a 2 hour lecture on problems with the registry and where they come from. Without notes and while drinking beer.

They have fixed some of the worst aspects through the virtual registry in Vista/7 but as you know they have to keep it around for compatibility reasons. The primary problem with the registry is application dependence and they have at least discouraged using it for program settings with .net. So the situation is drastically improved unless you are running XP which has a registry that I would describe as a dirty whore.


As for single button mice, can we not accept that while this may have been true almost 30 years ago, the Mac has supported right button mice for at least a couple of decades now?

Supporting a two-button mouse and designing an interface around one are two different things. OSX is built around the one button mouse because that is what Macs ship with.

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s_groening Member since:
2005-12-13

Images should auto-mount upon download and then prompt for confirmation to install to the applications folder.


This is exactly what disk images used to do, but due to security issues surrounding this (relatively easy) way of 'smuggling' in unwanted or insecure code, Apple advised people not to allow this when downloading disk images form the internet using Safari.

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