Linked by mjhi11 on Thu 16th Sep 2010 20:13 UTC
Apple I love OSNews, but it does seem like some of its editors enjoy just a little too much taking a good natured jab at Apple upon occasion (well, more like every chance that particular editor can get). I thought it time for a little good news and analysis about Apple that critics often overlook.
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RE: Comment by dvhh
by NeoX on Sat 18th Sep 2010 21:38 UTC in reply to "Comment by dvhh"
NeoX
Member since:
2006-02-19


So Apple product are not that bad, and are indeed very good ( if not best ) for computer illiterates.
As a linux/windows user using a Mac, frustrates me to no end, but I would 75% of the time advise people to buy a mac (yes I consider that 25% of my friend are computer literate enough to use windows at home).


If you don't understand and know how to really get under the hood of the Unix side of OSX then I can understand how you would feel like OS X can't be for geeks that like to tinker. I feel there is far more tinkering one can do with OS X then can be done on Windows. Think about all the open source software, servers etc available to the Unix part of OS X. It is amazing how many things you can install and do from the command line. Plus all the built-in tools, such as Curl for FTP on the command line and for scripting, CUPS, and on and on. I have quite a few apps that I wrote to automate some of the powerful command line apps that are installed as part of OS X. Fun stuff for a tweaker!

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RE[2]: Comment by dvhh
by _txf_ on Sat 18th Sep 2010 22:23 in reply to "RE: Comment by dvhh"
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

Indeed. There is no reason somebody who claims to be a linux user could complain about osx. A lot of the time linux apps can be ported to osx fairly easily, doubly so if they are command line apps.

Even if they don't use the command line a lot, one can clearly see the resemblance between gnome and aqua.

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RE[3]: Comment by dvhh
by nt_jerkface on Sun 19th Sep 2010 02:28 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by dvhh"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

Here's a reason:

OSX requires buying at minimum a $700 computer from one company that comes in one color just to run it.

I'm pretty critical of Linux when it comes to usability but the loon crowd can certainly claim the high crowd when it comes to being milked.

Oh and I find it quite funny that people who paid over a grand and a half for those G4 macs didn't get corporate support for nearly as long as Windows and now don't have even close the community support as Linux.

People who use Windows or Linux also don't have to pay for OS updates.

So yea I can think of a few reasons actually.

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RE[3]: Comment by dvhh
by dvhh on Sun 19th Sep 2010 12:51 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by dvhh"
dvhh Member since:
2006-03-20

Let me clarify my frustration when using mac apple computers, as nice as they are and as close as they are from any unix based system, they are designed for mac user which expect some behavior from mouse and keyboard (especially the home/end keys ) , I understand that there is some tweaks available, but I won't force my habits on someone I'm suppose to help.

And note that I'm complaining equally about every OS, they all have their flaws, they are designed to sacrifice something in order to acheive the targeted user goal, and I'm somewhat ok with that.

Applications weren't the issue ( but you can admit that Apple developed software are way more used than opensource/third party one on apple hardware ).

But the thing that I'm complaining the most is very good engineering company shooting themselves in the foot for the sake of marketing (sony and apple are among the top culprit here).

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RE[2]: Comment by dvhh
by dvhh on Sun 19th Sep 2010 12:26 in reply to "RE: Comment by dvhh"
dvhh Member since:
2006-03-20


If you don't understand and know how to really get under the hood of the Unix side of OSX then I can understand how you would feel like OS X can't be for geeks that like to tinker. I feel there is far more tinkering one can do with OS X then can be done on Windows. Think about all the open source software, servers etc available to the Unix part of OS X. It is amazing how many things you can install and do from the command line. Plus all the built-in tools, such as Curl for FTP on the command line and for scripting, CUPS, and on and on. I have quite a few apps that I wrote to automate some of the powerful command line apps that are installed as part of OS X. Fun stuff for a tweaker!


the point is that 99% of macOSX user don't bother at all, because that is far from the mac user culture (as much a writing a virus/trojan for a mac )

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