Linked by mjhi11 on Thu 16th Sep 2010 20:13 UTC
Apple I love OSNews, but it does seem like some of its editors enjoy just a little too much taking a good natured jab at Apple upon occasion (well, more like every chance that particular editor can get). I thought it time for a little good news and analysis about Apple that critics often overlook.
Thread beginning with comment 441625
To view parent comment, click here.
To read all comments associated with this story, please click here.
RE[4]: Comment by Tuishimi
by Tuishimi on Sun 19th Sep 2010 05:37 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Tuishimi"
Tuishimi
Member since:
2005-07-06

I come back and ask again, do you actually need a Mac Pro is it more a matter of having a 'tower' fetish of believing that real men who have real work to be done require a computer with a stand alone case ?

Kaiwai, what's up your pipe? My original post was simple and easy for a 2 year old to understand. I built a computer with the equivalent CPU, memory speed, and BETTER graphics card than a Mac Pro for much less. That was IT. What's your problem?

What the hell does NEED have to do with my original post. I was simply pointing out that I can build a computer equivalent to a Mac Pro for less. Maybe YOU SHOULD READ my original post from whence you launched your attack.

But I DID answer you. I want a computer that can run RoR, JBoss and Apache servers (3 at a time) and compile our entire web site and services, and run tests on AT THE SAME TIME while connecting to a database 3000 miles away. Also while I have multiple documents open via MS Word and our HTML APIs. I want as much speed as I can garner from my system to do this so that I don't have to wait for compilations and deployements constantly and spend more time testing and coding - not waiting.

And I disagree that computational power is a load of horse crap since I want as much speed and multiprocessing capability I can get at a reasonable price. YOU aren't proving anything to ME except that you can spew rhetoric better than most people. Which isn't saying much.

Reply Parent Score: 2

RE[5]: Comment by Tuishimi
by kaiwai on Mon 20th Sep 2010 02:41 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Tuishimi"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Kaiwai, what's up your pipe? My original post was simple and easy for a 2 year old to understand. I built a computer with the equivalent CPU, memory speed, and BETTER graphics card than a Mac Pro for much less. That was IT. What's your problem?


To which I pointed out that there are other computers from Apple you could have chosen from - your whole post was nothing more than a pathetic rant implicitly claiming that the Mac Pro was some how the only computer on offer by Apple. I stated before the Mac Pro was a rip off and you're better of getting an iMac and all you do is piss and moan about the Mac Pro as if were the only system on offer.

What the hell does NEED have to do with my original post. I was simply pointing out that I can build a computer equivalent to a Mac Pro for less. Maybe YOU SHOULD READ my original post from whence you launched your attack.


Then don't talk in hypotheticals unless you're talking about a real world scenario that one can marry up to what Apple provides; if your requirements sit outside the scope of what Apple is willing to cater for then get components and build one yourself, go to a big name vendor like Dell or HP and purchase one.

But I DID answer you. I want a computer that can run RoR, JBoss and Apache servers (3 at a time) and compile our entire web site and services, and run tests on AT THE SAME TIME while connecting to a database 3000 miles away. Also while I have multiple documents open via MS Word and our HTML APIs. I want as much speed as I can garner from my system to do this so that I don't have to wait for compilations and deployements constantly and spend more time testing and coding - not waiting.


So what you want sits out side what Apple is willing to provide - so why is there even an argument? it would be like me saying that Dell sucks because their all in one computer doesn't have what I want or their Studio range such because it is heavier and thicker than my MacBook Pro. Each company position their products to cater for a particular market and if they don't cater for my requirements life goes on and I choose something else. Simply because Dell doesn't sell me what I want doesn't make them automatically suck - they simply don't cater for what I want.

And I disagree that computational power is a load of horse crap since I want as much speed and multiprocessing capability I can get at a reasonable price. YOU aren't proving anything to ME except that you can spew rhetoric better than most people. Which isn't saying much.


No, speed isn't the 'be all and end all' if the reliability is a complete clusterf--k - when I'm writing my thesis for university, making videos and so on I couldn't care a rats ass whether it was the fastest computer on the planet if the net result is something that kernel panics every 30 minutes. Performance isn't the be all and end all - and my experience so far with Mac OS X is that it certainly doesn't fall behind the eighth ball when it comes to speed. My MacBook with a 9400M when benchmarked gets around 400fps from OpenGL 1.0 to OpenGL 2.1, my iMac with a Radeon 2600 HD is around 1200fps from OpenGL 1.0 to OpenGL 2.1. So no, Mac OS X isn't castrating performance but compared to Windows - maybe I like the idea that there is a consistent outcome rather than hearing from users that their fonts are fuzzy because of driver related issues and other weird stuff that happens.

Edited 2010-09-20 02:42 UTC

Reply Parent Score: 2

RE[6]: Comment by Tuishimi
by Tuishimi on Tue 21st Sep 2010 23:05 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by Tuishimi"
Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

To which I pointed out that there are other computers from Apple you could have chosen from


Point it out? You mean by saying I have a "tower fetish" or something?

your whole post was nothing more than a pathetic rant implicitly claiming that the Mac Pro was some how the only computer on offer by Apple.


No, never did I even imply that, neither did I rant about it. I said "I built a mac pro clone for $1500".

That's quite a rant. Wow! You are the one that read your own feelings of the matter into it.

I stated before the Mac Pro was a rip off and you're better of getting an iMac and all you do is piss and moan about the Mac Pro as if were the only system on offer.


No I did not, again you make up crap to suit your imagined issue/conflict. But since you brought it up, actually the system I build costs the same as a second tier iMac. And still has (for my needs) a more useful CPU, more powerful graphics card, more RAM, more disk space and while I haven't checked lately, probably faster bus and memory speeds.

Then don't talk in hypotheticals unless you're talking about a real world scenario that one can marry up to what Apple provides


LOL! What the hell are you on about? What hypotheticals? You are the one hypothesizing about MY computing needs. Once more time, because once, twice even five times is not enough:

"I built a mac pro clone for $1500."

What is hypothetical about that? Do you want me to paste my newegg receipts up here for you?


So what you want sits out side what Apple is willing to provide - so why is there even an argument?


I have no idea, you are the one who started the argument.

it would be like me saying that Dell sucks because their all in one computer doesn't have what I want or their Studio range such because


No it is nothing like that at all. Very poor analogy. First, I never said Apple sucks, because I like Apple and their products and am a regular customer. Second they DO have what I wouldn't MIND having, because I do find the Mac Pro to be an attractive piece of equipment, but I realized that the guts are what mattered most so I saved 50% of the cost of a Mac Pro and built my own. Nothing more, nothing less. I don't know why you thing I am conspiring to debase Apple and apple users.

No, speed isn't the 'be all and end all' if the reliability is a complete clusterf--k - when I'm writing my thesis for university, making videos and so on I couldn't care a rats ass whether it was the fastest computer on the planet if the net result is something that kernel panics every 30 minutes.


Wow! Again, you must be very unfortunate indeed! I don't have those kinds of problems on any of my computers... not the one running Haiku, not the one running Windows, not the one (which I recently reinstalled Mac OS X on for my daughter when I gave it to her) running Yellow Dog Linux. You must really be cursed to have your computers crash on you like that all the time. I'm glad your iMac doesn't do that, or you'd never get ANYTHING done.

Reply Parent Score: 2