Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 19th Sep 2010 19:05 UTC, submitted by sjvn
Novell and Ximian Novell has been pretty much for sale for six months, and now The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Novell's Linux business may be bought by VMware. Novell's other assets, which includes Novell Netware, will then be bought by a private-equity backed software company called Attachmate Corp.
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RE[2]: Worry?
by vivainio on Sun 19th Sep 2010 20:30 UTC in reply to "RE: Worry?"
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Also: What happens to Mono/MonoTouch/Moonlight/Miguel?


Mono would prosper, possibly:

http://www.sdtimes.com/blog/post/2010/09/17/VMware-2b-SuSE-Microsof...

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RE[3]: Worry?
by nt_jerkface on Sun 19th Sep 2010 22:20 in reply to "RE[2]: Worry?"
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2009-08-26

That blogger reminds me of Miguel in his naive view of working with Microsoft. Microsoft hates Linux, the Novell deal never changed that.

For one I am sure there are all kinds of clauses that MS wrote into their agreement that activate in case Novell is purchased to protect their IP from being used against them.

Since Mono goes beyond C# which is an ECMA standard they are on very shaky ground.

There isn't much to monetize anyways unless they plan on closing the source. Mono ASP.NET is free and open source and it still isn't being used much because very few websites need more than a VPS. Anyone with a website that requires a dedicated server can afford Windows Server.

Though I work with .net I never understood why Novell was so interested in investing in Mono. Nokia has the right idea which is to invest in a cross-dev platform and use c# as a binding. Instead of piggybacking asp.net Novell should have invested in their own web framework.

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RE[4]: Worry?
by kaiwai on Mon 20th Sep 2010 03:08 in reply to "RE[3]: Worry?"
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2005-07-06

That blogger reminds me of Miguel in his naive view of working with Microsoft. Microsoft hates Linux, the Novell deal never changed that.

For one I am sure there are all kinds of clauses that MS wrote into their agreement that activate in case Novell is purchased to protect their IP from being used against them.

Since Mono goes beyond C# which is an ECMA standard they are on very shaky ground.

There isn't much to monetize anyways unless they plan on closing the source. Mono ASP.NET is free and open source and it still isn't being used much because very few websites need more than a VPS. Anyone with a website that requires a dedicated server can afford Windows Server.

Though I work with .net I never understood why Novell was so interested in investing in Mono. Nokia has the right idea which is to invest in a cross-dev platform and use c# as a binding. Instead of piggybacking asp.net Novell should have invested in their own web framework.


I don't think Microsoft hates Linux, what Microsoft will do is start charging for the patented technology which eventually will jack up the price of Linux distributions so that the 'price advantage' of Linux goes. Once the price advantage of Linux evaporates then Microsoft believes that they'll be in a stronger position to win customers over based on non-price factors such as "we're a really big company - no one ever got fired for purchasing Microsoft". Its a nice easy way to remove the one big advantage that Linux has thus forcing the issue back to technology - something that Microsoft can compete with quite easily rather than entering into a pricing war that results in decreasing profit margins.

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RE[3]: Worry?
by segedunum on Mon 20th Sep 2010 13:02 in reply to "RE[2]: Worry?"
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2005-07-06

I don't see how. I can't fathom what use VMware would have for Mono. I don't see what use Novell or Suse has for it to be honest, because all that's written with it is a handful of useless tools full of their own self-importance. There's no server apps written with it on the scale of Java or .Net in the Windows world.

I doubt whether anyone paying to run some .Net applications on Suse is covering the large costs.

Edited 2010-09-20 13:02 UTC

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